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Old 03-27-2013, 10:55 AM   #26
Dave Gallagher
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Re: The Voice Steven Seagal interview

I remember watching Saturday Night Live sometime after Seagal had been the host. I don't remember who was hosting that night but the Host was acting like a total jackass (as part of the skit) then turned to the producer Loren Michaels and said "you must think I am the biggest jackass to ever host this show" to which Michaels replied "No, that would be Steven Seagal".
Perhaps that sums it up pretty good.

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Old 03-29-2013, 09:59 AM   #27
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Re: The Voice Steven Seagal interview

Interview part 2 - about meeting Bruce Lee (06.58): "...he knew that I have a son about the same age with Brandon..."

Bruce Lee died on 20 July 1973 and Seagal's son, Kentaro, was born in October 1975. And, Brandon Lee was born in 1965. ?????
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:02 PM   #28
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Interesting interview and I must admit I'm a fan. However, his arrogance shines bright when he's asked if he is as fast as he was 10 years ago and he responds "maybe faster" with that serious look hahah. Priceless Seagal response. Check it out in part 3 at 9:20.
Hmm? I can't really say, but...

There's a video of Seagal working with Lyoto Machida that you can probably find on YouTube.

He is showing Machida "the kick" and Seagal is disturbingly fast. I would say much faster than I ever saw him move in the 80's.

Speed is an interesting thing. So is arrogance!

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Old 04-06-2013, 08:04 PM   #29
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Re: The Voice Steven Seagal interview

I've always enjoyed, in a sort of weird, uncomfortable way, listening to SS speak. There's no question that his, I'll just broaden them out over and out of only aikido into martial arts, skills are top-tier.

It's his manner of speaking, and the way it leads to questionable credibility that makes me cringe. I'm not going to go back and try to tack the dates together, you'll have already noted that his method of speaking always has wiggle-words (i.e. "about the same age...), so that ends up being a waste of time. The problem is, he's always been that way, sort of secretive, but sort of out there at the same time. Conundrum.

One thing that made me grin, when he was talking about visiting with Russian President Vladimir Putin at his home, and mentioned Putin's having a life-size statue of the founder of judo, he said without any hesitation at all "Kano Jigaro," with perfect inflection, instead of (mine included) westernized Jigoro Kano. A little thing, and probably most likely due to his Japanese fluency, but still.

I find it interesting that the kanji character for kuzushi illustrates a mountain falling on a house.
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Old 04-09-2013, 04:40 AM   #30
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http://store.aikidojournal.com/actio...with-russians/

This answers the question does Seagal still teach Aikido. I actually agree with him about not teaching children Aikido. We have a policy in our dojo not to teach children below 13 because the joint locks and chokes are dangerous and can easily be abused by children play fighting. I think some techniques are good for children to learn for self-defence but I would be very careful how much I would teach to young children.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:47 AM   #31
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Seagal has legitimate martial art talent, but it has been eclipsed by his proclivity for uttering nonsense and bulls$%^@.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:58 PM   #32
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I've always enjoyed, in a sort of weird, uncomfortable way, listening to SS speak. There's no question that his, I'll just broaden them out over and out of only aikido into martial arts, skills are top-tier.

It's his manner of speaking, and the way it leads to questionable credibility that makes me cringe.
This is how I feel as well.

There was a time.. when he was newly famous and I knew nothing of him other than 'Aikido' and he makes it look very effective and that was what got me interested in starting down this path. I will always be thankful for that beginning being inspired by him. I have never met him and I wish I had to an extent, if only to thank him for the initial inspiration and more so to experience what his Aikido and general martial knowledge feels like in person.

However much I may enjoy watching his technique and martial skill in demonstrations or on the TV/movie screen... I find it difficult to watch an interview and I even feel a little *sigh* and a pang of sadness about it... I can understand and even sympathize to an extent about the allusions to his experiences and the name dropping meeting once upon a time stuff.

Simply put (without having met him at all just based on all one can watch and read on the internet and in books/magazines etc): I see a man who went to Japan with a sincere passion for martial arts and to be effective with it. Like many westerners who want to believe there is more mystical stuff than there actually is... he kept looking and possibly either got lost on that journey for the mystical stuff and is stuck searching, creating it for himself as some sort of comfort.

- I find all claims of his attitude/ego issues and counter claims to those claims to be equivocal and somewhat pointless. We all have bad days and better days. We try our best, put on our game face and try to keep those people happy who have expectations of us, family, friends, co-workers and our bosses... let alone students at the dojo. Every once in awhile we may slip or be misunderstood in our 'tone' or context or it could simply be that 'today was the wrong day to come to work/training/party at friends place and I should have just gone home and watched TV/movies or climbed a mountain..'

In regards to creating the myth: to me it 'seems like' an extension of the entire 'way' some (cliche) westerners approach eastern martial arts which is based on Hollywood movies/TV or even Hong Kong movies etc.. that portray all martial arts with a mystical aspect. 'the good guy triumphs over the bad guy because his edge lays in the mystical side of his training and the bad guy does not have that'.

And so they train while searching\ feeling\believing there must be something mystical to it.. and even if they realize one day while training that there really isn't... they still convince themselves that there is.. or must be... and they will tell others that there is a 'certain something' and perpetuate that mystique.

It has been mentioned in another thread on here elsewhere about how we essentially wrap ourselves in the trapping of the art: your training gi... why wear it over a t-shirt and sweat pants? Ranks, Hakama, coloured belts and so on... I am not saying any of that is wrong, in fact I have found it can help 'set the mood' for that learning environment of training a martial art. But last time I checked a Hakama does not give someone +3 to Aiki\Kendo\etc +5 to inner peace and so on... it just looks cool to some of us. But I digress... I simply meant we can all get 'caught up' in it in one way or another and to lesser or more degrees. My feeling is: with martial arts, you know what you do, your skill is what it is.. not your rank, belt colour, tired worn out thrashed Gi top and belt. Be happy and enjoy each moment of your life and your interaction with others. Be honest about all of it with yourself and do not fall into this trap we seem to be discussing here with Seagal. (By being honest I mean, if you think training to get your Hakama or your next dan rank is the coolest thing or what motivates you, then that is 'ok', just own that feeling and thought and do not disguise it as something else.)

With Seagal, I think he started sincerely down his path... along the way got caught up in the success of his training and then felt he needed to shroud it in a mystique to perpetuate his celebrity and perhaps to an extent, his particular 'way' of applying Aikido so others who have come to learn about it because of his movies would perhaps feel the only 'true' way to learn would be to go see him.

That all being said, I will still put myself on the mat with him to feel his technique and learn what I could if an opportunity ever presented itself. A large part of who is was and still is - is his Aikido and the rest of what he has made himself out to be would not keep away... if only because I am aware of that aspect of him.

Sorry if that is a bit of a ramble. I used to really look up to him, part of me still does. But I am not blind and I am have to be honest with myself and so that allows me to be a little sad when he says the things he does that simply cannot be true.
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