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Old 06-19-2012, 06:20 PM   #576
Anthony Loeppert
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Re: Spiritual and i/p

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Dear Dan
Strong words [as ever] .Be a good chap and let us know who these Aikido teachers are?You always talk about how useless everybody is and how they do not have aiki.How about letting us know who the aikidoka who do possess aiki skills[over and above yourself of course]....You imo are a bit vague when you talk about Aikido teachers .
If you do not wish to name these people publically send me a private message.I look forward to hearing from you ,hope you are well, Cheers, Joe.
Also, when you set up the criteria and at the same time judge (even though there is no doubt of setting aside your own prejudices), I can see where it could be very difficult without personal connections to the judge to pass.

Dan,
I did send you an email asking to train with you in Southern California. Funny, of the "master classes" I've taken (to borrow a term from the music world), none were so secretive or arrogant. The information was freely (not free as in $) given to those interested without judgement on whether the message was being received.

You must be one of those special teachers than can predetermine which students (will) have an understanding and which won't. Special indeed.

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From: Anthony Loeppert <anthony@loeppert.net>
Date: Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Subject: Orange county training inquiry
To: dojoseminars@gmail.com

Background (short) martial arts career: 1 kyu Yoshinkan Aikido (AikidoDelMar.com for teachers the whole time), almost 4 years. I am NOT a gift to the martial arts community, however I'm ramping up for shodan and I thought this would be a good way to get out see and learn something new and perhaps accelerate my learning rate. Kick it up a notch so to speak. Also, I thought the Yoshinkan style would mesh easily with Daito Ryu, from what I've seen in some videos.

Regards,
Anthony

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Old 06-19-2012, 06:31 PM   #577
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Also, when you set up the criteria and at the same time judge (even though there is no doubt of setting aside your own prejudices), I can see where it could be very difficult without personal connections to the judge to pass.

Dan,
I did send you an email asking to train with you in Southern California. Funny, of the "master classes" I've taken (to borrow a term from the music world), none were so secretive or arrogant. The information was freely given to those interested without judgement on whether the message was being received.

You must be one of those special teachers than can predetermine which students (will) have an understanding and which won't. Special indeed.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Anthony Loeppert <anthony@loeppert.net>
Date: Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Subject: Orange county training inquiry
To: dojoseminars@gmail.com

Background (short) martial arts career: 1 kyu Yoshinkan Aikido (AikidoDelMar.com for teachers the whole time), almost 4 years. I am NOT a gift to the martial arts community, however I'm ramping up for shodan and I thought this would be a good way to get out see and learn something new and perhaps accelerate my learning rate. Kick it up a notch so to speak. Also, I thought the Yoshinkan style would mesh easily with Daito Ryu, from what I've seen in some videos.

Regards,
Anthony
It (probably) doesn't have anything to do with you personally - Dan is just very hard to get a hold of (for anybody), and he's famously bad at answering e-mail. Aiki skills must not translate over into that stuff.

The workshops are not his day job, and he doesn't make any real money at it - he just does it because he loves it. Unfortunately that means some of the emails fall through the cracks.

Best,

Chris

 
Old 06-19-2012, 06:57 PM   #578
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The workshops are not his day job, and he doesn't make any real money at it - he just does it because he loves it. Unfortunately that means some of the emails fall through the cracks.
Honestly it goes both ways.... I've experienced high level practitioners without all the unprofessionalism. You don't put an email address on the internet asking for emails of interest then not simply hit reply and say 'no'.... 'or yes if not enough of the people I like come'... or whatever.

Is the email address good or isn't it? For some reason the phrase "piss poor" comes to mind. I realize I may be ostracizing myself with this comment and so be it.
 
Old 06-19-2012, 07:00 PM   #579
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Honestly it goes both ways.... I've experienced high level practitioners without all the unprofessionalism. You don't put an email address on the internet asking for emails of interest then not simply hit reply and say 'no'.... 'or yes if not enough of the people I like come'... or whatever.

Is the email address good or isn't it? For some reason the phrase "piss poor" comes to mind. I realize I may be ostracizing myself with this comment and so be it.
Yup, still good - give him a chance, you may forgive him.

Best,

Chris

 
Old 06-19-2012, 10:09 PM   #580
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Yup, still good - give him a chance, you may forgive him.

Best,

Chris
Quite right. I've found it's best not to take it personally. He's more or less equally bad at returning a message. Some of us enter conversations we have no real understanding of (cough, cough ), and some of us don't reply to messages. In his defense though, I'm sure his in-box gets flooded pretty regularly.
I try to think of it as a way of practicing our higher levels of spirituality while waiting to get his understanding on IP. I'm sure there is a priority status involved, but the mystique is more a consequence of the conversations online than of some kind fo elitism...so far as I can tell, at least.

Gambarimashyo!
 
Old 06-20-2012, 09:15 AM   #581
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Registering for an account gives you, me or anyone else the right to post.
Unfortunately, you have an incorrect understanding of rights and privileges. You do not have a right to post on this forum. Jun can at any time, on a whim, decide to remove you, me, or anyone else. Jun can also, at any time for any reason, remove any post. There are no recourses to those actions. You have no right to be here. You have a privilege. It is a public forum where Jun has set the boundaries, the rules, the regulations upon which you, as a registed user, have the privilege to post and interact with others.

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I'd like to read the rules but cannot find a link to where they're written down. Can you provide me with one?

Ron
Jun has posted them a few times and created a couple of threads for them. But, even in this thread, he has reposted them. See the quote below. Also, if you go to the General Forum, you'll find some of them at the top.

http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1

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Hi folks,

I don't have the time right now to sort/split this thread out into its components, so I want to ask you folks to help me out here. I'll just state a few guidelines that I hope will help this thread (and others):
  1. Please start a different thread when the topic that you are discussing veers away from the original topic.
  2. Please make sure to connect your thoughts to aikido when posting in the aikido-related forums here.
  3. Please keep your posts respectful and civilized; stay away from personal attacks and disrespectful language/conduct.

Thank you,

-- Jun
 
Old 06-20-2012, 10:23 AM   #582
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Quite right. I've found it's best not to take it personally. He's more or less equally bad at returning a message.
I didn't take it personally. I purposefully explained I'm a lowly yoshinkan 1st kyu. I understand there are limited spots. I expected a response in the negative, but I thought "what's the harm in shooting off an email?". Now I see the flaw in my plan, expecting the response. It may have sounded like sour grapes before, but that wasn't my intention. I guess I just wanted to say publicly "I tried"...

Anyhoo... I stopped holding my breath a while ago. With all the "controversy", for lack of a better word, swirling around my curiosity got the better of me but I don't have a burning desire to attend. Perhaps that's what will separate the attendees from non-attendees.

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Old 06-20-2012, 10:59 AM   #583
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I feel that this thread has veered off-topic enough.

Thread closed.

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