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Old 12-06-2011, 11:57 AM   #126
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Re: Saotome Sensei's Training History

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There are too many of us who are resolved and understand the nature of the work, and it's place in history, its place in the arts and how it effects Aikido, to squander my time with just anybody.
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i was worry for awhile there. thank god i wasn't in the anybody category, but in the nobody category which should be ok, right? see, you should have stuck to the nobody group, since we have no beef, no care, no how and no nevermind.

some folks looked at historical information as some sort of insult, personal affront. others looked at historical information as something to study, to analyze and learn from the past in order to plot a course for the future. one man's insult is another man's insight. one man's trash is another man's meal. one man's foot is another man's up.

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Old 12-06-2011, 12:07 PM   #127
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I am merely trying to say that it would be nice if all the insults, stated directly or implied, would stop.
There is a really simple way to obtain these results, Ken. It's called stop posting.
I had a post with all of his insults to a host of people, as well as a protracted series of his personal attacks all cut and pasted into a list almost done... when I realized it wouldn't matter at all. I think what is going on here is transparent enough.

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Old 12-06-2011, 12:08 PM   #128
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I had a post with all of his insults to a host of people, as well as a protracted series of his personal attacks all cut and pasted into a list almost done... when I realized it wouldn't matter at all. I think what is going on here is transparent enough.

Dan
PLEASE, PLEASE POST IT! If nothing else, it will help highlight the double standards that are applied in regards to conduct on this forum by certain people.

Marc Abrams
 
Old 12-06-2011, 12:28 PM   #129
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PLEASE, PLEASE POST IT! If nothing else, it will help highlight the double standards that are applied in regards to conduct on this forum by certain people.

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I think he's right though, it's like trying to hold a discussion with a pig. You never really get anywhere, and it annoys the pig .

Best,

Chris

 
Old 12-06-2011, 12:30 PM   #130
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PLEASE, PLEASE POST IT! If nothing else, it will help highlight the double standards that are applied in regards to conduct on this forum by certain people.

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Nope. As I said it is pointless.
I have had eleven threads started using my name to go after me personally. Not what I said, not what I do...me.
I have been threatened to be sued, along with anyone in Aikido who hosted me, called a con man and a snake oil salesman, Called a fraud and a liar when I was thee only one actually telling the truth...had threads started about how much I make, being hounded and chased through thread after thread by a few people....on and on.

I have no say here. I just try to get people to present something, anything to support their statements other than "Because my teachers told me so." in all of the discussions here.
With this thread? Saotome is one of the good guys!! So one of his own making such a mess in a misguided attempt to defend a guy who needs none is particularly embarrasing and sad.
Dan

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Old 12-06-2011, 12:30 PM   #131
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I think he's right though, it's like trying to hold a discussion with a pig. You never really get anywhere, and it annoys the pig .

Best,

Chris
Chris:

When we are done talking to the pig, we have a Luau !

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Old 12-06-2011, 12:39 PM   #132
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Well, I can see where the motive was sound. The methodology and follow through just fell apart and squandered what would have ended as a fair and balanced discussion. Most all of us have trained under Japanese Shihan. We all get it, we know the drill. This was never a big deal to anyone and there was no defense ever needed.

Well, for the little that it mattered, now everyone knows what I think of Saotome's skills compared to others! I am quite sure I am going to pay for that comment sooner or later.
Dan

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Old 12-06-2011, 02:42 PM   #133
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