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Old 05-22-2011, 01:54 PM   #101
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Not sure about that...I have not seen any fish win the Tour Du France.

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Well, sure, now, with all the water pollution they can't pass the anti-doping blood tests

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Old 05-22-2011, 01:54 PM   #102
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"Magister ludi, parce simplici turbae
aetates, si valent, satis discunt." -- Marcus Valerius Martialis

Cheers!

Rudy
Hi Rudy,

Omnis gallia in tres partes divisa est.

Sic transit gloria mundi,

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Old 05-22-2011, 05:15 PM   #103
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...Rudy, What?
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See Martial's epigrams, where he exhorts teachers not to abuse their students.

Enjoy your practice,

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Old 05-22-2011, 05:35 PM   #104
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...Omnis gallia in tres partes divisa est.Sic transit gloria mundi,
Hi Mary,

Not quite sure of the point you wish to make. The one I'm trying to emphasize is:--

"The deity is within you, not in ideas and books. Truth is lived, not taught." "Magister Ludi", H.Hesse

Enjoy your practice,

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Old 05-22-2011, 05:48 PM   #105
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Well, sure, now, with all the water pollution they can't pass the anti-doping blood tests
Hi Janet,

Lots of prescription drugs in the water supply too...seasonale, enovid, prozac, paxil, lithium, valium etc. etc. which may not cause fish to fail their doping tests but could make for some very erratic bike riding in fish otherwise able to compete quite well on the velodrome circuit.

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Old 05-22-2011, 06:03 PM   #106
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Not quite sure of the point you wish to make.
I'll translate. What I said is:

"I don't speak Latin. What you have just said means nothing to me."

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The one I'm trying to emphasize is:--

"The deity is within you, not in ideas and books. Truth is lived, not taught." "Magister Ludi", H.Hesse
That's all well and good, but I think it's a non sequitur here.

(that is to say, it does not follow. Ipse dixit!)
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Old 05-22-2011, 06:22 PM   #107
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See Martial's epigrams, where he exhorts teachers not to abuse their students.

Enjoy your practice,

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The problem, Rudy, is that you misquoted Martial and what you posted makes no sense. Even in Latin.

Regards.

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Old 05-22-2011, 06:44 PM   #108
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...What I said is:
"I don't speak Latin. What you have just said means nothing to me.
Hi Mary and Demetrio,

In replying to the ongoing debate on how to teach mindfulness, train aikidoka, meditate, etc. I quoted Martial (sorry if my memory of the latin or my translation here are in error)

"Magister Ludi , (Master of Games ), spare the simple throng, life, if they are well, teaches enough". - Martial (Epigrams, c.100 A.D.).

That quote was the source of the title for Hesse's great novel which touches on many of the issues being discussed and includes this quote...

"The deity is within you, not in ideas and books. Truth is lived, not taught. -- "Magister Ludi" (Herman Hesse, c. 1943).

If my opinions in this thread or if the relationship of the quotes to the onging debate are not sufficiently clear then the fault is mine and I accept it fully. My intent was only to let some new light in and not to start a ruckus.

Enjoy your practice,

Rudy

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Old 05-22-2011, 07:12 PM   #109
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Hi Mary and Demetrio,

In replying to the ongoing debate on how to teach mindfulness, train aikidoka, meditate, etc. I quoted Martial (sorry if my memory of the latin or my translation here are in error)

"Magister Ludi , (Master of Games ), spare the simple throng, life, if they are well, teaches enough". - Martial (Epigrams, c.100 A.D.).
http://www.archive.org/stream/epigra...e/200/mode/2up

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My intent was only to let some new light in not start a ruckus.
I'm sure about it, but Martial epigram is different from the abridged, edited and poorly translated version Hesse perpetrated.

Regards.

PS. Yes, a good version of Marley's "One Love". The deep meaning doesn't change. I could not say the same regarding Hesse's version of Martial you've used.

Regards again.

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Old 05-23-2011, 03:54 PM   #110
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I saw this article today....

Aikido and the Paradox of Violence
http://archive.usafaikidonews.com/20...rticle_3.shtml
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