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Old 01-13-2011, 10:22 AM   #1
TonyDif
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Wrist Control

Greetings all

One of the facinating things I see in Aikido demos is the ability of the defender to, when grabbed by the wrists, to create pain in the attacker and control them (usually bringing them to their toes)through a slight turn of the defenders wrist. I don't know if this is a re-alignment of the attackers joints thereby locking them or pressure on a point. Any insights would be welcomed.

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Old 01-13-2011, 10:30 AM   #2
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To get you going, the best thing is to ask your teacher to demonstrate this on you.

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Old 01-13-2011, 10:43 AM   #3
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Hi Anthony,

A video where the technique you're refering to is seen would be useful.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:03 AM   #4
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Re: Wrist Control

In general, the aim is to connect to the attacker's center and disrupt their balance; the lock is merely the way there.

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Old 01-13-2011, 11:26 AM   #5
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As I understand it, the locks work by creating a rigid connection through the attacker's joints to his center. Any pain is merely incidental, and depending on pain to make the lock work is unwise.

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Old 01-13-2011, 11:27 AM   #6
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From the way you word the question, it sounds like you don't do aikido yourself? It's a lot easier to understand by having someone do it to you...

There are a lot of different techniques you might be talking about, but in general at least as far as I understand it so far, the most basic description I can think of of the mechanics of what you seem to be describing is usually using the arm as a lever to move the person's body, where the twisting you see is a way of locking the joints between the hand and the torso so you can create a lever arm through which to move the body and take the person off balance. Sometimes there is also pain through the force on the joints or on a pressure point, but from what I've been taught it's usually secondary.

That's pretty oversimplified (and missing out on a lot of what's going on) and coming from a relative beginner, so take it for what it's worth....
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:52 AM   #7
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Re: Wrist Control

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Anthony Difilippo wrote: View Post
Greetings all

One of the facinating things I see in Aikido demos is the ability of the defender to, when grabbed by the wrists, to create pain in the attacker and control them (usually bringing them to their toes)through a slight turn of the defenders wrist. I don't know if this is a re-alignment of the attackers joints thereby locking them or pressure on a point. Any insights would be welcomed.

Regards
Tony
Tony,

Are you sure what you watched were aikido? Sound more like traditional jujitsu or shorinji kempo to me.

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David Y
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:58 PM   #8
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Re: Wrist Control

Not to be a cynic but...it could also be an overzealous uke, tanking.

Sorry guys, but it's a possibility.

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