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Old 07-21-2010, 06:37 PM   #26
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Yes. Are you satisfied now that you've done your due diligence?
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Old 07-21-2010, 06:48 PM   #27
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As I explained in the text that you quoted, Maggie, "our test is always "Whatever Sensei wants".".
Must make it awfully difficult for a person to prepare for a test if they have no idea what they will be asked to perform especially with such a wide range of possibilities. I can see that maybe for an upper kyu rank but it seems like it would be a lot to expect for someone's first or second test.
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:00 AM   #28
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Must make it awfully difficult for a person to prepare for a test if they have no idea what they will be asked to perform especially with such a wide range of possibilities. I can see that maybe for an upper kyu rank but it seems like it would be a lot to expect for someone's first or second test.
Well, Sensei is not rigid about it -- it's not like he'd fail someone testing for 5th kyu who couldn't do something that was officially a 4th kyu technique. I think his real reason for doing it is that it pushes people in the direction that he really wants us to go: less towards memorizing a list of techniques, and more towards learning the core principles. So, instead of learning "shomenuchi iriminage omote and ura" and the like, he's trying to get us to pay less attention to the technique and more attention to the opening, from which (if it's good) the technique can follow. Anyway, yeah, there's always a bit of a freakout period before tests when people realize how much they don't know, but I'll bet that's the same at any dojo. The seniors always put in a lot of extra time helping people get ready for tests, and by test day things are pretty calm and people feel ready.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:39 PM   #29
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Our sensei likes to change the test too. We have "standard" things on each test, but he always throws things in that aren't on there. More often then not, I hear it is things you should know or have already done though. I think it is just one more factor that pushes you beyond your comfort zone, which can be a great opportunity for growth. I don't know if he would fail you if you couldn't perform it well or not though. I have only tested once and I have only seen one other test done and that was two people testing for 5th kyu like I did a few months later.

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Old 07-22-2010, 01:17 PM   #30
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well my 5th kyu did have a surprise pop quiz (shomenuchi any technique) section that was not on the testing requirements but at least we do have a list of what we will be asked to do as well. We also know that it is not the technique itself that is being judged but our understanding of the principles appropriate for our level. So at 5th kyu they were looking for correctness. Posture, footwork and making sure all the pieces were there.

Any rate I guess whatever your sensei does is what you think of as normal.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:36 AM   #31
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Any rate I guess whatever your sensei does is what you think of as normal.
Yes, as messed up as y'all evidently think that is
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Old 07-23-2010, 12:48 PM   #32
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Yes, as messed up as y'all evidently think that is
I don't recall anyone thinking it was any more messed up than Kaiten nage on a 5th kyu test. Just different.

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