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Old 02-11-2010, 07:31 PM   #1
Johann Baptista
Dojo: Aikido Institute Davis
Location: Davis, CA
Join Date: Feb 2010
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The Consciousness of the universe


This is a must-listen-to for those who have any belief whatsoever that everything has a consciousness and those who are skeptical. I heard about the work of this scientist, Cleve Backster a while back. I have since spent a long time researching the claims, both for and against. So far, I am convinced that this work is an awakening for all of society.

The link is to a website that talks about his research. It also has some audio, so get some head phones. (it might be better to read the stuff before hearing the talk.)


Almost every ancient culture has believed in a force. Some call it Ki, some call it the-spirit-that-moves-in-all-things, some call it the Holy Spirit, etc. And these ancient people have always believed that everything is alive.

Please do not look at this link before you have seen the first one or it will confuse you This is a link to Cleve Backster's actual website, to a page of reviews. It is what the first reviewer claimed, that startled me. He claimed that he had tested the communication with a Faraday cage. A Faraday cage shields the object within from electromagnetic radiation. This shows that the communication occurred on a different level.


In fact, Cleve backster has dubbed this form of communication "Primary perception", because it occurs on a primary level. It defies modern science, because the communication is instantaneous, which means that it happens faster than the speed of light. In fact, there is no speed to it at all.

This is all fascinating. Cleve himself always says that he prefers to leave the interpretations of his work to others. Nevertheless, you can hear him say every once in a while "wow, this is interesting!".
Go research this. Find out if he is a fraud or not, but remember to keep an open mind.

Another interesting site, although his claims are much more difficult to verify:



- Johann
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:36 PM   #2
Dojo: Aiki Shoshinkan, Aiki Kenkyukai
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Re: The Consciousness of the universe

Very interesting.

In chikung, there's an oft used practice to test out the qi. Using a plant, usually we grow two bean sprouts.
1 which we emit qi to and the other nothing. Both are watered and otherwise taken care of normally. Plant number 3 is a controlled subject where no care is given.
Generally, maybe 90% of the time. Plant number 1 will outgrow no 2 by a significant amount. Plant number 3 is stunted even if it does manage to grow somehow.

As for the water, I've seen the seminar. The water molecules are different and is quite beautiful when you speak positive words to it. But when bad words are spoken, the molecules look quite ugly. From what I understand, there are hospitals in Japan that invests significantly to giving positive water to their patients.

Draw strength from stillness. Learn to act without acting. And never underestimate a samurai cat.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:08 PM   #3
David Orange
Dojo: Aozora Dojo
Location: Birmingham, AL
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Re: The Consciousness of the universe

Ahmad Abas wrote: View Post
As for the water, I've seen the seminar. The water molecules are different and is quite beautiful when you speak positive words to it. But when bad words are spoken, the molecules look quite ugly. From what I understand, there are hospitals in Japan that invests significantly to giving positive water to their patients.
Water molecules are water molecules. I've seen the photos from the guy who claims that water molecules take on all these various stunning configurations depending on what kind of mental or spiritual energy is directed at them.

Short answer is: BS.

Long answer: if you believe that, I can sell you a tall building in Dubai.

Best to you.


"That which has no substance can enter where there is no room."
Lao Tzu

"Eternity forever!"

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