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Old 02-04-2010, 11:17 AM   #1
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This is the discussion thread for the AikiWiki article "Ki".

"Mind. Spirit. Energy. Vital-force. Intention. (Chinese = chi) For many Aikidoka, the primary goal of training in aikido is to learn how to "extend" KI, or to learn how to control or redirect the KI of others. There are both "realist" and anti-realist interpretations of KI. The KI-realist takes KI to be, literally, a kind of "stuff," "energy," or life-force which flows within the body. Developing or increasing one's own KI, according to the KI- realist, thus confers upon the aikidoka greater power and control over his/her own body, and may also have the added benefits of improved health and longevity. According to the KI-anti-realist, KI is a concept which covers a wide range of psycho-physical phenomena, but which does not denote any objectively existing "energy" or "stuff." The KI-anti-realist believes, for example, that to "extend KI" is just to adopt a certain kind of positive psychological disposition and to correlate that psychological dispositon with just the right combination of balance, relaxation, and judicious application of physical force. Since the description "extend KI" is somewhat more manageable, the concept of KI has a class of well-defined uses for the KI-anti-realist, but does not carry with it any ontological commitments beyond the scope of mainstream scientific theories."

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Old 02-04-2010, 04:33 PM   #2
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Re: Ki

Two suggestions -

1) Find terms other than "ki-realist" and "ki-anti-realist" - they sound very odd and forced. Or, better yet, just describe the different approaches without trying to come up with a label for each - "For some, the word denotes a type of energy . . ." And so on.

2) If you want to mention the Mandarin Chinese pronounciation of the word, the correct romanization would be either ch'i (with the apostrophe) or qi. "Chi", depending on the romanization system you are using, would be pronounced either "gee" (as in "gee whiz") or "chr", neither of which are the pronounciation of the character.

Old 02-04-2010, 04:47 PM   #3
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Re: Ki

Just a quick reminder that this thread is for discussing the "ki" article in the AikiWeb AikiWiki:


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Old 02-05-2010, 12:37 PM   #4
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Re: Ki

Hello everyone,

Omedeto gozaimasu. Welcome to Spring Season, yesterday 2/4 was Risshun, the 1st day of Spring and the astrological opening of the New Year. We will celebrate Spring this weeks Sunday at Setsubun Taisai at Tsubaki Jinja.

Soon we will see the Ume/plum blossoms....Yamamoto Guji, the 97th High Priest of Tsubaki Grand Shrine in Mie Japan shared a poem written by Niijima Jo-san:

There is an ume tree in the cold garden.

It blossoms merrily in spite of the snow.

It never competes or contests,

But takes the lead of all flowers.

The meaning of this poem is that by taking the lead/ extending your KI and progressing positively you will have success moving through life's inherent difficulties. Sarutahiko Okami / Aikido's parent Kami and main Kami of Tsubaki Grand Shrine in Japan and it's North American Branch is Kami of KI and forward movement-- we can receive great KI from Sarutahiko Okami and share it with those around us.

yoroshiku onegaishimasu
Koichi Barrish
Tsubaki Grand Shrine of America
Old 02-08-2010, 05:26 PM   #5
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Re: Ki

hi All,
I added a section on Science and Ki to the wiki. With a personall background in both fields I've striven for a neutral viewpoint and some observations about how the different viewpoints might have come about


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