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Old 11-30-2008, 11:42 AM   #1
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Yiochiro Inoue

Why is he given no credit for being there all along with OSensei, helping him to develope Aikido? From what I can gather from this article http://www.aikidojournal.com/article.php?articleID=53 Something happened after the 'Second Omote Incident' (where Japanese Authorities raided, arrested and imprisoned top Omote leaders and destroyed the Omote temple). Apparently Yiochiro felt that instead of running away and going into hiding, avoiding arrest and imprisonment, Osensei should have stood with the other leaders (Osensei was 'personal trainer/bodyguard to Onisaburo Deguchi [founder of Omote]. Anyway, they parted ways from then on and Osensei never mentioned his name or gave him any credit, despite growng up with him and moving around with him and training with him for decades (Yiochiro introduced Omote to Osensei). Not to mention financing most of his endeavors (the Inoue's were the weathy family who financed everything. Records show that Osensei worked for the Inoue's most of the time). Not to mention joining the Army and training soldiers to kill and spying, during WW II. So, the first half of his life he engaged in fighting and killing and espionage, but then the latter part of his life denouncing it.

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Old 11-30-2008, 02:54 PM   #2
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Re: Yoichiro Inoue

Not exactly - He didn't help Ueshiba develop aikido - that was what Inoue claimed, but he was a small child - Ueshiba's nephew during Ueshiba's Daito-ryu training years. He refused to train with Takeda - therefore, all he learned came from his uncle.
It has been claimed that the 2nd Omoto incident had something to do with the breakup - but note - Inoue wasn't arrested either. The truth is that it was family stuff (details unnecessary - a simple family feud).
He didn't finance Ueshiba - that was his father.
I've never heard that Inoue was a trainer of spies, etc. He did not "engage in fighting and killing" whatsoever.
OK - here's something more accurate. Inoue was groomed to be Ueshiba's successor - but it is obvious that he was a difficult person long before the Omoto incident. You can tell this by Kobukan photos. In traditional photos, people are arranged by rank and by proximity to the center (master). Inoue is usually off to the side, leaning against a pillar with a sour expression on his face. He was, reportedly, very good and very strong. Films of him from 1960 reveal an uncanny resemblance to his uncle - prewar. These films were on an Aikido Journal production that is out of circulation - there is a possibility that it may be reissued on DVD, but don't either count on it or harass Stan about it, please.
THe interview reveals a rather obnoxious, grandiose old man - very narcissistic, and very needy to be recognized as special.
Anyway, end line - he and his uncle didn't like each other very much at all in the end - so it's quite natural that he was 'cut out." It was his job to create a viable alternative to aikido - his own art. Well, he tried - Shin'ei taido. But he never made a viable entity. Unlike his uncle, he was not much noticed by the public.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:59 PM   #3
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Re: Yiochiro Inoue

This is the article in question http://www.aikidojournal.com/article.php?articleID=53

Sorry for the confusion, I didn't mean Inoue engaged in spying and training soldiers to kill (Americans), Osensei did.

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