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Old 08-30-2008, 08:01 PM   #1
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Police Training in Aikido Needed


After cruising through David's thread and his police videos, I came across one where Aikido training would have been very effective. After watching the clip it is noticeable there are many situations where Aikido could be used and control the situation. WOW.
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Old 08-31-2008, 07:19 AM   #2
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Re: Police Training in Aikido Needed

Check out the works of Ledyard, Dye, and Togo Sensei for alerady existing applications to LEO.

Lynn Seiser PhD
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We do not rise to the level of our expectations, but fall to the level of our training. Train well. KWATZ!
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Old 08-31-2008, 07:45 AM   #3
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Re: Police Training in Aikido Needed

Ha! looked like the U.K. Police!!
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:11 AM   #4
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Re: Police Training in Aikido Needed

Since I don't live in the U.K. Oh god, I really hope the U.K. police are hurting that bad, LOL.

That cop really could have used Aikido to stop the protester. Even poorly executed Aikido would have gained the cop more control. In this clip is where would have Aikido really made a difference.

I feel this is what this clip showcases is what Aikido is designed to do. Here if Aikido is used the protester would not have been in control and it wouldn't have been chaos for the cop who clearly was have great difficult in protecting himself because he wasn't trained with the right tools. The situation over took the cop.

I also feel Aikido when done in this or like situation sends a message to others of who is in control. In this type of situation there are those who are triggered to join in the attack on the target because they see the target can't control the situation. That trigger (showing a lack of control) can be a variety of things such as what we see in the clip where the protester has dominance over the situation by repeatedly spraying the cop who can't stop it. Entanglement such as we seen in the clip where the cop and protester look like they are wrestling, or even on the ground struggling show vulnerability to being attacked, losing sight of what is happening around you. The lack of power to stop the attack quickly will all trigger weakness and vulnerablity of the target.

As long as it looks like the attacker doesn't not have the power to stop the attack quickly and show dominance-the problem with entanglements described above- it is a trigger of others to jumps upon the target. That was clearly demonstrated by the cop, he was lucky that the other protesters didn't overtake him as well.

Here is the beauty of Aikido, if the cop used Aikido say a nikyo then he would have shown control quickly over the situation and those waiting to join in on the attack (if there where) who is in control. If another attacker did approached the cop while using nikyo he would have an greater flexibility to deal with that attacker. Because he would have not been entangled and completely occupied with one attack. Because that didn't happen, no Aikido applied the cop was entangled and at the controlled and mercy of the attacking protester.

Seeing this clip where Aikido would have been highly effective if used. But because Aikido wasn't used in the clip it shows the importance of Aikido techniques in these types of situations.

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Old 08-31-2008, 02:59 PM   #5
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Re: Police Training in Aikido Needed

After seeing the clip again, if we zoom in on the other protesters we see many opportunities for a multi- attack upon the cop. I realize the target is a cop, but it really doesn't have to be. The situation is very generic in many type of struggles between two people. There are so many clips on the net that apply to the effective use and the purpose for Aikido. The situation we see in the clip isn't a life or death situation but it could become on depending on those in involved. If you can control the situation quickly and control it, it stops the conflict from going further into a more intense situation that increases all sorts of risks, and needs more time and effort to control.

I am going to apologize now, I usually don't happen to read all the respones, but I did happen to read Lynn's just now. That is a good reference as well to this thread. Which is about training for situations that lend themselves best to the use of Aikido. No matter what style you practice.

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