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07-15-2008, 06:59 AM
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Dojo: Midwest Center for Movement
Location: Hudson, WI
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Broken Clavicle
Hi Everyone!
I broke my clavicle during Aikido training 1 month ago. I opted for the surgery (I did have a pretty bad spiral fracture/break) and it has now been 3 weeks since the surgery. My recovery has been really good and I have already been on the mat, although in a sling and only helping in a limited capacity with kids class. My doctor said it could be 6-9 months before I can take falls and roll again safely.
My question is: For those of you out there in the Aiki Community that have broken your clavicle and had surgery or not had surgery, what has been your experience as far as healing time? How long before you were taking rolls again?
Thanks much!!!
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07-15-2008, 08:42 AM
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Dojo: TNBBC (Icho Ryu Aiki Budo), Shinto Ryu IaiBattojutsu
Location: Seattle, WA
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Re: Broken Clavicle
Just be sure to wait until it's good-n-healed. Surgery makes some folks think they're more healed than they are. It will probably be more in the 6 month range than the 8 week range. Let it heal properly and you'll have a lifetime to do the stuff you love. I'm involved in motorcycling and snowboarding in addition to Aikido and lots of folks in both those sports break collarbones. You will be *able* to do a lot of the things you miss long before you *should* be doing them. The danger is that if you re-injure the area, a plate and a bunch of screws do a lot more damage than a bone. You want to wait until the bone is what's holding your shoulder together, not a plate.
Here's a story you should read. Granted this guy was on his 7th break, but he didn't let them heal properly, and look what it got him. Sad stuff.
Sorry to be a nanny, but I've seen way too many people (myself included) come back to training before it's actually healthy and safe to be on the mat. 
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Chris Moses
TNBBC, "Putting the ME in MEdiocre!"
Shinto Ryu Iai Battojutsu
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07-15-2008, 08:49 AM
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Dojo: Midwest Center for Movement
Location: Hudson, WI
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Re: Broken Clavicle
Yeah I'm trying exceedingly hard not to overdue it. I'm still wearing the sling most of the time even though the doc said I didn't have to as long as I was careful. I tend to forget about the injury without it on. I really, really want to let it heal properly. I mostly just wanted some feedback from other Aikidoka, my doc doesn't really know what we do.
Thanks for the info. I was figuring that the 6 months would probably be right. Sucks a bit, but hey I do have the rest of my life to train.....I've just not been off the mat for more than a few days for 5 years. It's pretty weird. That's why I'm kinda "helping" (as much as a one armed, non rolling, non falling Aikidoka can) during kid's class. So I feel sane. 
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07-15-2008, 09:41 AM
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Dojo: Southern Maryland Aikido Center
Location: Waldorf, MD
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: Broken Clavicle
I'm just curious... what were you doing when you broke it - falling/rolling?
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07-15-2008, 09:59 AM
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Dojo: Midwest Center for Movement
Location: Hudson, WI
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Re: Broken Clavicle
Hey Don,
I was helping teach kids class and was being thrown by my Sensei. It was a hanmi handachi technique, me standing. I tried to take a roll out of the technique (have no idea what it was, really can't remember, haven't asked) and couldn't get over fully (my hips got locked down and I couldn't push off to get any height). My shoulder slammed directly into the mat. We both agree it was just a weird occurance on both sides.
My facebook page has a bunch of pictures: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...&id=1127616733
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07-15-2008, 10:49 AM
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Dojo: NOLA Aikido
Location: New Orleans
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: Broken Clavicle
Have faith  - You'll be back on the mat soon enough
Besides, for the moment you can at least show nikkyo, sankyo, yonko, kote gaeshi, maybe a few others...
-Bryan
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07-15-2008, 11:54 AM
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Dojo: Kingston Aikido
Location: New York
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Re: Broken Clavicle
OUCH!!!!!! I hope you heal FAST, Faith!
One of my teachers broke her collarbone taking ukemi a long time ago. I think she said it took 9 months to heal (enough for aikido, I guess).
Take it easy!
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Karen 
"Try not. Do...or do not. There is no try." - Master Yoda
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07-15-2008, 12:06 PM
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Dojo: Doshinkan dojo in Roxborough, Pa
Location: Phila. Pa
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Re: Broken Clavicle
Best of luck and hope you heal quickly!
Ron
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St. Bonaventure (ca. 1221-1274)
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07-15-2008, 01:26 PM
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Dojo: Aikido Arts of Shin Budo Kai/ Bedford Hills, New York
Location: New York
Join Date: May 2006
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Re: Broken Clavicle
Faith:
I would strongly recommend going to a Chinese medicine doctor to help with your recovery. Bone-knitting formula's , acupuncture, etc. can significantly hasten your recovery.
Marc Abrams
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07-15-2008, 07:05 PM
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Dojo: Aikido of Midland
Location: Midland Texas
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Re: Broken Clavicle
a friend of mine broke his in 3 places and it was about 9 months healing with residual soreness. He was thrown by a sensei demoing a ude hiji nage and did not let go of his arm and drove him straight into the mat. He was just visiting too.
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07-19-2008, 09:18 AM
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Dojo: Aikido Shinjukai, Singapore
Location: singapore
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Re: Broken Clavicle
broke my left collarbone in late Jan this year - taking ukemi for juji nage for sensei, my trailing foot caught in his hakama and I plowed shoulder first into the floor
started teaching again in April and training again first week July - just going a bit slow and careful on my left side especially with locks but otherwise OK.
i developed a frozen shoulder while the fracture was healing but an 'aggressive' approach to treatment from my osteopath had pretty amazing results in a short time and I now have about 90-95 % of the range of movement i had before the injury with improvements continuing
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