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Old 06-27-2008, 08:47 PM   #26
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Re: Power and Compassion

Hmmmm there's an interesting thought.... Is the development of Ki in one's Aikido neccessary to learn or understand the meaning of compassion in Budo???

My experiance mirrors Sensei Hooker's to a degree...and by practicing "not fighting" I've been told I have turned into a really sweet guy.

Most of the Aikido folks I have met over the years with backgrounds close to mine seem to have had almost the same experiance with the growth of compassion in both thier practice and daily life...

"The Art of Peace does not rely on weapons or brute force to succeed; instead we put ourselves in tune with the universe, maintain peace in our own realms, nurture life, and prevent death and destruction. The true meaning of the word samurai is one who serves and adheres to the power of love." O'Sensei

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Old 06-27-2008, 09:08 PM   #27
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Re: Power and Compassion

I'm not really fond of the constant urge to mix metaphysical ideas with physical training. Surely it should be more organic than that.

Like any other sport or long-term endeavour, I think the study of martial arts just make you more of what you want to be, whatever that actually happens to imply.

Mixing in values and judgements into a technical matter simply misses the point and diminishes both the stand-alone importance of the values and the usefulness of the technical information.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:51 PM   #28
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Re: Power and Compassion

The idea was what can be done to better avoid "power abuse" when we are increasing the general level of power. -Rob
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:02 PM   #29
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Re: Power and Compassion

I thought that was what you were referring to as well. As I noted it seemed a fairly straight forward observation too.
Other than you guys in Aikido making a list of who you think should be avoided-which could be very dicey- I have no idea how you'd manage to pull it off.
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:03 PM   #30
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Re: Power and Compassion

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The idea was what can be done to better avoid "power abuse" when we are increasing the general level of power. -Rob
So, would, as an example, posts/boasts of personal exploits, etc., be a good indication of who might "abuse power" and laud it over other people be a good example of what to look for???? Can you think of better indicators of how to avoid "power abuse" than to watch for people who brag about what they can do, who they have met, etc.? Give us an idea of what indicators you'd use.

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Old 06-27-2008, 11:17 PM   #31
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:18 PM   #32
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So, would, as an example, posts/boasts of personal exploits, etc., be a good indication of who might "abuse power" and laud it over other people be a good example of what to look for???? Can you think of better indicators of how to avoid "power abuse" than to watch for people who brag about what they can do, who they have met, etc.? Give us an idea of what indicators you'd use.

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How about personal witness to abuse from a senior? Seems pretty simple. Especially, when guys in the arts have seen that played out, then met people with more power who choose not to use it to harm those learning, then offer a leg up to help them.
That seems pretty straight forward as well.

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Old 06-28-2008, 07:14 AM   #33
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So, would, as an example, posts/boasts of personal exploits, etc., be a good indication of who might "abuse power" and laud it over other people be a good example of what to look for???? Can you think of better indicators of how to avoid "power abuse" than to watch for people who brag about what they can do, who they have met, etc.? Give us an idea of what indicators you'd use.

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Hey that's "thread abuse"

Work with me people!

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