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Old 01-23-2002, 03:26 PM   #1
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what is up with the belt system???

I have been doing a lot of thinking and I have a brown belt in tae bo and it kicks major ass but I really want to ask is why do people take aikido more than 2 years?? because black belt is the highest belt right?? well DUH it is! so once you get your black belt you will be the same level as your sensaei right? so what do you do then? do you start your own dogo because your sensaie obveusly cant teach you any more if you are at the same level as him!!! now maybe it is different in china where it originated because I think it goes black, gold then the last one is eagle belt but still, there should be more belts so you could train more in america.

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Old 01-23-2002, 03:45 PM   #2
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Re: what is up with the belt system???

...Now wasn't that SPECIAL!!! (...in my best 'Church Lady' voice imitation)

Ah David ....did you happen to eat paint chips as a kid or was your house located under power lines or something?!?!

...just curious!

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Old 01-23-2002, 03:48 PM   #3
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Re: Re: what is up with the belt system???

Trolling along country roads with my baby - I turn to her and she ......

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Old 01-23-2002, 03:53 PM   #4
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NO!

NO I did not eat paint chips as a kid and my house was NOT located under power lines! Look I know what I am talking about ok! I have studied martial arts my whole life and my dad was a cop ok?
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Old 01-23-2002, 04:04 PM   #5
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Re: NO!

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...and my dad was a cop ok?
So, how the job of your dad has anything to do with your knowledge or skills in martial arts? ???!

From your first post, it seems that you should continue to do martial arts because you have understand nothing!!!
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Old 01-23-2002, 04:19 PM   #6
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Perhaps all that is needed to know is that a literal translation of Shodan is "first grade".
You only start there.........
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Old 01-23-2002, 04:19 PM   #7
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Re: what is up with the belt system???

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I have been doing a lot of thinking and I have a brown belt in tae bo and it kicks major ass but I really want to ask is why do people take aikido more than 2 years?? because black belt is the highest belt right?? well DUH it is! so once you get your black belt you will be the same level as your sensaei right? so what do you do then? do you start your own dogo because your sensaie obveusly cant teach you any more if you are at the same level as him!!! now maybe it is different in china where it originated because I think it goes black, gold then the last one is eagle belt but still, there should be more belts so you could train more in america.
Is troll and/or idiot. Ignore and will go away.

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Old 01-23-2002, 04:23 PM   #8
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Aikido is a martial art that does not consider the black belt to be the "golden calf". Once you attain the rank Shodan you are not considered a master of aikido, you are considered a serious student. Many of the pure practitioners of aikido feel that you are not of "master or teacher" status until you are at least a sandan. So to answer your question, when you achieve the rank of black belt you can continue to practice with that sensei or other sensei's and work to achieve a higher Dan rank. People who practice the art of Aikido with the intent to get their black belt and start a dojo of their own are truly losing what the real meaning of Aikido is about.
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Old 01-23-2002, 04:26 PM   #9
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Tae bo is a martial art?

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Old 01-23-2002, 05:08 PM   #10
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Tae bo is a martial art?
Peter, it's a way of life.

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Old 01-23-2002, 05:31 PM   #11
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In ancient times, the Chinese ninja samurai used a combination belt/tassel/headband system to indicate their rank. Colored stripes were awarded directly by the king himself.

True warriors of old were known to wear a minimum of TWO belts.

But lineages have been broken, and methods have been lost. Modern practitioners disgrace the ancestors with their callous disregard for ornamentation.

Keep the faith, David Pien. May the Gods smile upon you.
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Old 01-23-2002, 05:35 PM   #12
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Old 01-23-2002, 06:53 PM   #13
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That's it. I've made up my mind.

I'm going to China to study Aikido, so's I can get me a Eagle Belt. Then I can come back here, and give all of you guys what for.

I love this kind of stuff. This is the level I understand.
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Old 01-23-2002, 06:59 PM   #14
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I have several black belts. one of them has a gold buckle, another has a silver buckle. David, belts are only good for holding up your pants, sometimes not even that. Oh if you're really desperate for one, you can buy a black belt from your local martial arts supplier for about $8.50

I didnt' even know that tae bo had ranks. Being from Australia I'm nto taht knowledgeable about tae bo but I thought it was more of a fitness/recreation, much like exercise or boxercise.
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Old 01-23-2002, 07:35 PM   #15
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Re: what is up with the belt system???

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I have been doing a lot of thinking and I have a brown belt in tae bo and it kicks major ass but I really want to ask is why do people take aikido more than 2 years?? because black belt is the highest belt right?? well DUH it is! so once you get your black belt you will be the same level as your sensaei right? so what do you do then? do you start your own dogo because your sensaie obveusly cant teach you any more if you are at the same level as him!!! now maybe it is different in china where it originated because I think it goes black, gold then the last one is eagle belt but still, there should be more belts so you could train more in america.
Awesome.
Opportunities such as this are so rare
But, because I feel in an Aikido frame of mind, I will stand back and observe, for a while.

Taebo...
Peace

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Old 01-23-2002, 10:02 PM   #16
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Re: what is up with the belt system???

I think he has a point! I mean, you bust your butt for 12 years to get a diploma, or you can get those study tapes and get your GED. Why do we need any kind of certification after that! I mean, I know that High School taught me just as much as any PhD out there, so really, what's the point of going further once you get that diploma?
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Old 01-24-2002, 04:07 AM   #17
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Tae bo is that the martial art where they all wear reeboks and nikes, lots of spandex leotards and jump around to very bad rave music.It looks deadly........ on the eyes and ears. Keep The Faith........

By the way, I do Aikido and my dads a window cleaner......

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Old 01-24-2002, 07:37 AM   #18
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In ancient times, the Chinese ninja samurai ...
...Stop it!!! ...You guys are killing me here!!! ...I just sprayed my monitor with a mouthful of coffee after reading this one!!!!

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Old 01-24-2002, 07:49 AM   #19
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Chinese ninja samurais

What's next...

Billy Blanks is Korean, and he created TaeBo because he doesn't like the grading system of TaeKwonDo?

Like the Chinese Ninja Samurais of the old, he prefers to have different color shoes, leotards, and headbands instead of belts...
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Old 01-24-2002, 09:06 AM   #20
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Sorry about the monitor Brian..........

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Old 01-24-2002, 03:17 PM   #21
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Belts and pants

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In ancient times, the Chinese ninja samurai used a combination belt/tassel/headband system to indicate their rank. Colored stripes were awarded directly by the king himself.
Nononono!!! The rank system was invented by the Koreans. Master Chiun TOLD me so.

I gotta go. Sinanju class starts in a few minutes.

mle-n-chuck

PS: Eagles got pants!?!?!
Oh, you mean the music group, yes?
Dinn't know THEY did marital arts!

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Old 01-24-2002, 03:54 PM   #22
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MLE,

Never, ever mention Sinanju, or I will be forced to deal with you in a way The Emperor Smith may not approve of.
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Old 01-24-2002, 07:17 PM   #23
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The Eagles? References to "Remo Williams?" You're dating yourself there, mle-n-chuck...

At any rate, tae bo can't be that bad if you get to wear leotards...all that lovely support. In fact, I'm going to wear a leotard to practice tomorrow...

Regards,
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Old 01-24-2002, 08:35 PM   #24
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The Eagles? References to "Remo Williams?" You're dating yourself there, mle-n-chuck...

Actually, no, we're marrried now.

any rate, tae bo can't be that bad if you get to wear leotards...all that lovely support. In fact, I'm going to wear a leotard to practice tomorrow...

The mind boggles. (grin)

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Old 01-24-2002, 08:36 PM   #25
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MLE,

Never, ever mention Sinanju, or I will be forced to deal with you in a way The Emperor Smith may not approve of.
Oh did I say SINANJU??? Dammit. I meant GREENOCH!

Ahem.

Slainte, ya'll.

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