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Old 03-26-2008, 02:16 AM   #26
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

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Mise en scene: uke and nage are facing the same direction (how they got there is left as an exercise to the student). Both have their inner foot forward. Uke's inner arm is (more or less) extended across nage's inner arm, which is (more or less) extended forward; nage's other arm is on top of uke's arm near the wrist, so nage's two arms act like a lever. Nage extends forward and down, throwing uke, who rolls.

Can anyone tell me what this is called?

TIA,
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Following on from my earlier blog I realise a spelling error.Ude kime nage not as I have earlier written.Just woke up hence the lousy spelling. Cheers, Joe.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:36 AM   #27
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Now you are messing me up too LOL.
I knew this one is Juji Nage

While this one is Ude Kime Nage

And this is Sumi Otoshi

(Even tho in our dojo the last 2 are both known as Sumi Otoshi).
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:16 PM   #28
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

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Now you are messing me up too LOL.
I knew this one is Juji Nage

While this one is Ude Kime Nage

And this is Sumi Otoshi

(Even tho in our dojo the last 2 are both known as Sumi Otoshi).
Mr. Pizzuto, you are absolutely correct....the UdeKimeNage is also called Mae otoshi in other systems, and that is the one that was original described by Ms. Malmros
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:25 AM   #29
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Greetings every one, I'm new here but would like to add my 2 cents to the discussion.

Fumio Toyoda Sensei referred to it as sumi otoshi.

Yamada Sensei refers to it as ude kime nage.

Chiba Sensei, from what I understand, refers to it as juji nage.

Hope that helps.

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Old 03-27-2008, 05:49 PM   #30
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

For me, PAG trumps all the terminological angst by pointing out that his Jpn students have no a priori knowledge of what a name means even though they are native speakers of the lingua franca of aikido, i.e., it's largely a matter of convention.

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Old 05-18-2008, 10:01 PM   #31
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Sorry almost a zombie thread now...

Doesn't sumi otoshi mean sliding and dropping? Can someone explain why this would apply?

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Old 05-19-2008, 02:47 AM   #32
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

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Doesn't sumi otoshi mean sliding and dropping?
It actually means "corner drop".
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:58 AM   #33
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Fumio Toyoda Sensei referred to it as sumi otoshi.

Yamada Sensei refers to it as ude kime nage.

Chiba Sensei, from what I understand, refers to it as juji nage.
In our dojo udekime nage is different than juji nage.
The former is locking the arm and throwing and the latter is more of a neck lock from what i remember from last years seminar.

Udekime nage is required for our 5th kyu test... juji nage for later kyu.

Peace

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Old 05-19-2008, 11:02 AM   #34
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

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Now you are messing me up too LOL.
I knew this one is Juji Nage

While this one is Ude Kime Nage

And this is Sumi Otoshi

(Even tho in our dojo the last 2 are both known as Sumi Otoshi).
Yes, that is how we do udekime nage.
Doesnt look like how we do juji nage though...however it has been a year since I did that technique.
and Sumi...I dont remember.

Peace

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Old 09-27-2008, 12:39 PM   #35
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Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Sorry to bump and old topic, and also sorry to throw more names into the confusion, but I've always known the original technique to be called Hiji Ate. Just more to swirl around in your head.

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