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Old 01-07-2011, 04:00 AM   #26
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Re: Aiki strategy outside the dojo

Regarding cats and budo, have you seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sAF8gMN9c0

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Old 01-07-2011, 04:39 AM   #27
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Please excuse me spamming here but who on earth would let his children play close a crocodile pond?
Nevertheless, the cat's got guts!
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:44 AM   #28
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Re: Aiki strategy outside the dojo

Another piece of great advice. Thanks again, Tony.
My husband the recent judoka (two years now), who has done some Aikido and I are looking forward to some hard, at least serious, training, together working around any old injuries (we were in construction, not just martial arts, so who knows what was the cause) .... but glad to know you recommend the other side of training also,
We'll have to attach new importance to our cat, and learn from him!
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:32 AM   #29
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just saw the video, we only have dialup, but if patient, the
intermittent, and slow motion can be worth it until, finally
the video repeats at full speed! If patient, can "steal secrets"
from Aikido videos too, if you have dialup and no cable.

Noticed another cat to the left, who must have felt his friend could
handle the 'gator solo, and left. (unintentional pun)

Yep the only excuse for letting your cats near gators so you
can film them is if this is the cat's daily form of fun which you
just happened to observe another day and then brought your
camera. Still, way too risky. With all the construction, and
animals (wild and "tame") in the neighborhood, and cars driving
faster and faster (still lots of SUV's) I'm not the only one
who decided to keep my most recent cat indoors.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:24 PM   #30
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Another piece of great advice. Thanks again, Tony.
My husband the recent judoka (two years now), who has done some Aikido and I are looking forward to some hard, at least serious, training, together working around any old injuries (we were in construction, not just martial arts, so who knows what was the cause) .... but glad to know you recommend the other side of training also,
We'll have to attach new importance to our cat, and learn from him!
When you think about it Diana you need the "hard" to understand the "soft"......... ying yang and all that ?
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:18 AM   #31
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You're absolutely right and the video shows it (if you can post it
for the others) My husband and I were fascinated, and the
slow dial up portion enables us to study it, then the computer
plays it normal speed. A computer quirk that is actually
instructive.

With regard to off the mat interpersonal communication as they
call it, often I have had to make a strong statement, so adapt
the timing when I say it. This works especially in family
situation with husband and brothers. When to meet opposing
force , and when to let them say their piece and then make
a point after they have done that. Or wait until later .... Not easy
to do but it works. Using power, with the proper timing.

Thanks again, we appreciate your help and encouragement.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:25 AM   #32
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Diana Frese wrote: View Post
You're absolutely right and the video shows it (if you can post it
for the others) My husband and I were fascinated, and the
slow dial up portion enables us to study it, then the computer
plays it normal speed. A computer quirk that is actually
instructive.

With regard to off the mat interpersonal communication as they
call it, often I have had to make a strong statement, so adapt
the timing when I say it. This works especially in family
situation with husband and brothers. When to meet opposing
force , and when to let them say their piece and then make
a point after they have done that. Or wait until later .... Not easy
to do but it works. Using power, with the proper timing.

Thanks again, we appreciate your help and encouragement.
Naaaa let them find it.......
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:25 AM   #33
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I usually try and find synthesis, consensus, and work to resolve conflict. Lately however, it seems that in my work, for whatever reason, I have hit the point on several subjects where this is not working...so, I am having to take a more directive, forceful approach to affect moving in the right direction.

The trick, I think, is to use only the amount necessary to get the job done.
How is it over there at present Kevin?....

I was that way, way before all the troubles..... I never felt welcome..... It was like they were suspicious as to our why we are there?

It's not what you feel on top......... it's what you feel that comes from underneath.......

That was my experience......

Regards

Tony

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Old 01-11-2011, 03:14 PM   #34
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Okay, cats....

I had a Siamese Tom growing up -- not the biggest in the neighborhood, but one of the dominant animals. I think it's because he psyched out the other cats. He also used to stalk a bird dog whenever it came into the yard. The animal outweighed the cat 4-to-1, but all it understood is that it was being hunted. Then the cat would charge, and the dog would run. I swear it made the cat laugh, the way they do, in their walk.

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Old 03-12-2011, 02:23 PM   #35
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I have had a couple of opportunities to use aspects of physical aikido as well joint locks and unbalancing work rather well on uncooperative horses if you know how their bodies work.
Any chance of geting a little more detail on this? I find myself working with the more difficult horses more often than not (due to prefereing them, actualy. I find it more rewarding.) and any hint of things that can help me improve there would be apreciated.

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Old 03-28-2011, 08:22 AM   #36
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Onegaishimasu, one of the best tactics that I have found for social interactions is simply to smile and say, "that's nice..."

In gassho,
Mark

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Old 07-18-2011, 12:17 PM   #37
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Re: Aiki strategy outside the dojo

I found it amazing how Aikido's idea of blending with the attacker worked so well.
It hit me while I was playing World of Warcraft.
The game was a 20 man team vs. A 20 man team.
To win you must capture a majority of 5 flags for a certain amount of time.
Usually, both teams run aimlessly towards these flags attempting to gain the flag through brute force.
A we were losing, I remembered my Aikido class I had left 30 minutes ago and this idea formed - What if we moved where the enemy left? Efficiently avoiding wasting time away from flags and immediately causing hysteria to the enemy, causing them to split to more vulnerable, smaller groups trying to regain their balance.

In my opinion, after winning, I looked at this as a massive, virtual atemi.
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:23 PM   #38
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Hmmm...wondering...if you divided into 5 teams of 4 each and went after each flag at once? Each team having a "go to next" plan so no need to regroup for a while?

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I found it amazing how Aikido's idea of blending with the attacker worked so well.
It hit me while I was playing World of Warcraft.
The game was a 20 man team vs. A 20 man team.
To win you must capture a majority of 5 flags for a certain amount of time.
Usually, both teams run aimlessly towards these flags attempting to gain the flag through brute force.
A we were losing, I remembered my Aikido class I had left 30 minutes ago and this idea formed - What if we moved where the enemy left? Efficiently avoiding wasting time away from flags and immediately causing hysteria to the enemy, causing them to split to more vulnerable, smaller groups trying to regain their balance.

In my opinion, after winning, I looked at this as a massive, virtual atemi.

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Old 07-18-2011, 01:03 PM   #39
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Hate to go a little off topic but
That would work if
A. The enemy stayed in just one massive group over the usual 2
B.The enemy was slightly weaker

But by moving out of the way of their very large attack and blending and moving with the enemy, you take them off their balance, leaving them open for an almost 5-0 capture
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Old 07-18-2011, 02:54 PM   #40
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Re: Aiki strategy outside the dojo

My grandnephew recently turned six, and like most six year olds, he hates to take his medicines. His grandma (my sister) was holding the cup of syrup and kept calling him, and he was ignoring her. His mother grabbed him and started pushing him toward my sister, and when they both thought that they had him, he suddenly stopped resisting his mother and started running faster than she was pushing. He escaped.
He finally gave in when he was told that he was not going to visit his best friend until he swallowed his syrup.
Aikido works because it's based on logic and cleverness.
That's why six year olds do it without even knowing it.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:01 PM   #41
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This is another medicine story, but for a long time I was the only one in my household who was able to give medicine to my cat. The trick is to be completely relaxed when you do it and not to treat it as something that is going to be difficult. Just walk up to the cat as you normally would, stroke it a bit and pop the pill in it's mouth. As long as you aren't tense, the cat won't be either.
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Old 07-26-2011, 08:33 AM   #42
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If you mirror the physical/emotional state of another person or animal, you can manipulate them more easily.

I used to cut the cat's nails and I'd wait till it was really relaxed or sleeping, then I'd go up to it and and casually place the clippers around a nail and begin clipping. That technique worked a lot better than grabbing the cat and pinning it with force and struggling to clip all its nails as it resisted me with all it's might.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:57 AM   #43
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His mother grabbed him and started pushing him toward my sister, and when they both thought that they had him, he suddenly stopped resisting his mother and started running faster than she was pushing. He escaped.
That's the same kind of trick my cat used when I tried to hold it still (I trained a lot with it, even before I started aikido): It relaxed, so I did too in my grip after a while, without noticing. Then suddenly it snuck away in a quick movement.

Next time I was prepared for it, so I immediately grabbed when the cat tried for it. Then it relaxed again. After a while, it made its move, and I tightened my grip, then it relaxed - and immediately after that it did it again. Ta-dam. I gave up.

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