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Old 03-04-2008, 06:53 PM   #1
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Pressure Points and Internal Striking

Please find enclosed a video of cavity strikes, internal striking and pressure points. The techniques to the joints and structure are done with the addtional intent of attacking the nervous system and disrupting the movement of chi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YM5iinV6E

I look forward to your comments...especially you Chris

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Old 03-05-2008, 09:19 AM   #2
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Re: Pressure Points and Internal Striking

What is a cavity strike? Well, for some it begins with Bruce Lee's famous one inch punch...

For a few it is placing your palm on your opponent and then striking mulitple times "internally" by placing exhibiting chi at various places on the palm.

Put, your hand on flat on your chest and then pretend you are playing the piano. You will then have an inking as to what an "internal" strike is vs. a percussive strike.

Notice, that at the end of the tape, I am using a series of joint techniques and pressure points that lead to multiple pressure point attacks on the head and neck.

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Old 03-05-2008, 09:34 AM   #3
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Re: Pressure Points and Internal Striking

Thanks for the video. It appears you are using a basic 3 point pressure point attack in the beginning and augmenting it with other points as available. I think that if you strike someone, you should strike smartly. That is what pressure points and cavity presses are about.

A Kung Fu teacher and retired California DOJ co-worker/buddy of mine teaches similar from the Chinese traditions. He is the first to admit that when a perpetrator has adrenal dumped, the points you strike do not necessarily stop the fight suddenly as in demonstration, but they do help in wearing the guy down.

As for cavity press, (my favorite) I concentrate on setting up the attacker so that I take away his "iron vest" with "destabilization" and "Balance breaking" before I go for the shots. I get better bang for my buck that way.

Your thoughts??

He is the first to admit
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:50 AM   #4
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Re: Pressure Points and Internal Striking

Hi Chris,

First, the grip. Most people simply do not have it. As such, they can't perform the pressure points even if they know where they are. It is so important to train the fingers all the way to the tips.

Second, you must penetrate. In the old days, martial artists were also doctors/massage/acu-point experts. They knew how to penetrate the body by using an "S" with their fingers. Again, most people even if shown the pressure point won't be able to use them.

After a while, the method is so much like "water" that joint locks, kicking, cavity strikes etc. all become the same movement.

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Old 03-05-2008, 10:38 AM   #5
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Re: Pressure Points and Internal Striking

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Hi Chris,

First, the grip. Most people simply do not have it. As such, they can't perform the pressure points even if they know where they are. It is so important to train the fingers all the way to the tips.

Second, you must penetrate. In the old days, martial artists were also doctors/massage/acu-point experts. They knew how to penetrate the body by using an "S" with their fingers. Again, most people even if shown the pressure point won't be able to use them.

After a while, the method is so much like "water" that joint locks, kicking, cavity strikes etc. all become the same movement.

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Joseph
That is certainly a fact. Few people train grip. And in a fight, the first thing a man learns is he has not trained his grip enough. But do you suggest that you are using the old ways of grip training, not for grabbing Gi, rather for Tiger-style ripping and tearing; penetrating pressure points and collapsing blood vessels?

What do you think about the "light brushing" of pressure points to stimulate them rather than gripping them?
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That is certainly a fact. Few people train grip. And in a fight, the first thing a man learns is he has not trained his grip enough. But do you suggest that you are using the old ways of grip training, not for grabbing Gi, rather for Tiger-style ripping and tearing; penetrating pressure points and collapsing blood vessels?

What do you think about the "light brushing" of pressure points to stimulate them rather than gripping them?
Hi Chris,

In this video I am using solely the penetration of grip. No punching, no pressure point and no joint techniques. I am simply using my grip:

Grip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgiwhPNmFQg

As to the light brushing, its a bit like flowing your hand over the hairs of your arm. There is in my opinion an electro-magnetic connection as well as the emanation of hormone and chemical reaction.

I believe that everything in the body is connected and that stimulating one area creates a chain reaction in other areas. As such, the idea is to regulate opening and closing blockages in the body at various times.

Certainly, for us old guys blood circulation is critical.

Are you teaching still? And do you teach your art forms together or separately?

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Old 03-05-2008, 11:07 AM   #7
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One of my main teachers was Brian Adams, an early student of Ed Parker. He was (as Ed Parker did with many of his students) encouraged to train with Bruce Lee. This experience gave him a major awakening that guided his career as a master level teacher.

I tend to follow the same awakening. My art is mine as your's is yours - no matter what you call it for the public's sake. After training in traditional processes, you must challenge and test the processes before you truly understand what you personally need in your journey.

I "teach" if you wish to call it that. I would rather call it "Socratic sharing". I meet with folks, challenge their assumptions when I notice that the assumption is blocking their learning. I stick around and guide the inquiry so that the "seeker" does not go too far off course. But to uncritically accept my answers is the foolish way out of the process.

They should question my answers and make a study of it themselves as if the old way were the thesis and mine was the antithesis. Some studies take a while and overnight critiques of my answers normally show a lack of disciplined inquiry. The process of synthesis should be theirs and theirs alone.
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One of my main teachers was Brian Adams, an early student of Ed Parker. He was (as Ed Parker did with many of his students) encouraged to train with Bruce Lee. This experience gave him a major awakening that guided his career as a master level teacher.

I tend to follow the same awakening. My art is mine as your's is yours - no matter what you call it for the public's sake. After training in traditional processes, you must challenge and test the processes before you truly understand what you personally need in your journey.

I "teach" if you wish to call it that. I would rather call it "Socratic sharing". I meet with folks, challenge their assumptions when I notice that the assumption is blocking their learning. I stick around and guide the inquiry so that the "seeker" does not go too far off course. But to uncritically accept my answers is the foolish way out of the process.

They should question my answers and make a study of it themselves as if the old way were the thesis and mine was the antithesis. Some studies take a while and overnight critiques of my answers normally show a lack of disciplined inquiry. The process of synthesis should be theirs and theirs alone.
Hi Chris,

I like it.

It is so difficult though. We as a society tend to believe the rumors, the papers, what our teachers tell us and everything on TV and the movies.

Most do not want to inquiry. They simply want to accept what they see and hear. And when you tell them their are infinite possibilties they don't want to hear truth. It's easier to be lazy.

Lastly, as to Ed Parker. I remember watching him do the multiple attack at the Long Beach Internationals. He was terrific. My teacher, Ben Largusa too was associated with him.

Ed Parker, before he died, in his last article for "Inside Kung Fu" stated, "I invited Bruce Lee and Kali master Ben Largusa to impress all the black belts. They weren't disappointed."

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