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Old 02-22-2008, 10:39 AM   #1
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A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=4272882&page=1
I'd like to see similar laws nationwide.
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:43 PM   #2
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

Michigan recently passed a "castle doctrine" law.

One of my favorite parts of our version is that if I defend myself and am not found guilty in the ensuing criminal trial, I am protected from a civil suit being brought against me.

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Old 02-23-2008, 11:27 PM   #3
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

that would never happen in washington

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Old 02-24-2008, 11:56 AM   #4
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

I've had enough of guns in my younger life and I have no wish to own or use one now... Unless the current powers that be decide to take over the country.

Thank God for Aikido...

William Hazen

For the record to each his own However I think there no coincidence between the number of deaths by firearms in the country and the fact we have the largest number of privately owned guns...

The result is way too often what happened yesterday in Yorba Linda and last week at NIU.
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Old 02-24-2008, 03:55 PM   #5
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

Thak God for Aikido!
But most of the year I live in Port Morseby, PNG a very violent town
and yes I do own firearm.I hope I never will have need to use it.
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Old 02-24-2008, 04:22 PM   #6
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

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Thak God for Aikido!
But most of the year I live in Port Morseby, PNG a very violent town
and yes I do own firearm.I hope I never will have need to use it.
No worries. Like I said it's just a personal choice. I respect anyone's choice to own and use a firearm. If I lived in your neck of the woods you can bit your bippy I would own the biggest baddest thing legal in that part of the world.

I hope and pray you never have to use it too but if you have to I hope and pray it turns out all right.

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Old 02-25-2008, 11:20 AM   #7
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

wonder if this would have found it's way into the news if this had been two white guys breaking into a hispanic home. how might have the homeowner been portrayed? perhaps as a violent 'immigrant' with guns that 'might be' illegal. I realize this is a bit inflammatory to some minds, but it is fuel for thought and should always be considered when legislating. Seen it too many times.

As for Williams assertion to each his own, yeah that too. So lets be aiki-minded and take in the entire circle of possibilities when we have an opportunity and provide for loving protection for all beings in our laws.
let's be care-full.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:50 PM   #8
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Thank you William!

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Old 02-27-2008, 01:29 PM   #9
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

When the Castle Doctrine laws are brought up it is usually in a context of using a firearm for self-defense. In truth the law simply removes the victims duty to retreat from any place he/she is allowed to be legally, and protects them from civil litigation if they are found not guilty in a criminal trial.

These laws protect the defender whether they are using a gun, a chair, or aikido to defend themselves. Different states still have various levels of force that are allowable to a defender and you have to stay within those parameters to stay within the law, and if you do these laws have been put in place to protect you should you ever need to defend yourself.

If you are jumped by a couple of guys and you drop one on his head with an irimi nage and break the others arm with a shihonage these laws protect you from being sued into oblivion by the perpetrators or their families (again, assuming you were not found guilty of excessive use of force, battery, etc. in the criminal trial).

It is a step in protecting the rights of people to protect themselves and others from uninvited violence and it is something that I would think people who study defensive arts would be in support of.

Just my opinion though.

A Wikipedia entry on Castle Doctrine can be found HERE

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Very good Bronson.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:04 PM   #11
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Very good Bronson.
Yup.

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Old 03-02-2008, 09:04 PM   #12
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I've had enough of guns in my younger life and I have no wish to own or use one now... Unless the current powers that be decide to take over the country.

Thank God for Aikido...

William Hazen

For the record to each his own However I think there no coincidence between the number of deaths by firearms in the country and the fact we have the largest number of privately owned guns...

The result is way too often what happened yesterday in Yorba Linda and last week at NIU.
There is also no coincidence between the number of teen accidents being higher in areas with teen drivers. Or the number of elderly deaths being higher in nursing homes then in college dorms. Correlation does not equal causation.

- Don
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:59 PM   #13
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

"If you smell s*** all over town, it is probably on your shoes."

Correlation or causation? You decide.

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Old 03-03-2008, 10:33 AM   #14
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There is also no coincidence between the number of teen accidents being higher in areas with teen drivers. Or the number of elderly deaths being higher in nursing homes then in college dorms. Correlation does not equal causation.
Whatever gets you through this life my friend.

I have made my choice dispite all the obfuscation memes by the NRA.

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Old 03-04-2008, 11:32 AM   #15
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Re: A Man's Home Is His Castle, and He Can Defend It

From the Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners website.

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National Reciprocity Bills to watch: S.388 & H.B.226. The legislation would allow any person with a valid carry permit or license issued by a state to carry a concealed firearm in any other state, if they meet certain criteria. The bill would not create a federal licensing system — it would simply require the states to recognize each other's carry permits, just as they recognize drivers' licenses.
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