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Old 04-19-2006, 02:34 AM   #1
Kung Fu Liane
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Black Uniforms

Hi, my Sensei has just announced that our new school uniform is a black Gi. Does anyone know where to get good quality black Gis from? I have found some nice ones on Bujin, but other students at my school have said that they were stung for import duty on goods from America.

Some of our students have started wearing lightweight karate gis, but they don't really look up to the task.

Any help would be much appreciated.

-Liane

Aikido: a martial art which allows you to defeat your enemy without hurting him, unless of course he doesn't know how to breakfall in which case he will shatter every bone in his body when he lands. Also known as Origami with people
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:54 AM   #2
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Re: Black Uniforms

Google.co.uk ... easy.

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Old 04-19-2006, 04:10 AM   #3
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Liane Guillou wrote:
Hi, my Sensei has just announced that our new school uniform is a black Gi. Does anyone know where to get good quality black Gis from? I have found some nice ones on Bujin, but other students at my school have said that they were stung for import duty on goods from America.

Some of our students have started wearing lightweight karate gis, but they don't really look up to the task.

Any help would be much appreciated.

-Liane
http://judogis.com/site/790161/product/SP-633

http://www.karatedepot.com/un-ju-48.html

Are a few examples...Hope that helps a little...Personally I would've stuck with white/unbleached, or went to blue, just for the practicality purpose of being able to find judogi in that color :P
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:03 AM   #4
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Re: Black Uniforms

Yann - thanks. I found a few Blitz suits which look suitable and reasonably priced.

Thomas - personally I prefer white, but it's not my decision. Perhaps it's some kind of test that my Sensei has devised...we'll all come in Black uniforms then he'll want us to get Red ones instead

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Old 04-19-2006, 08:21 AM   #5
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Do you have to wear a black belt with the black gi? Then get a white belt when you test for shodan?
Or maybe a nice shade of something that won't clash with the black gi like a white belt would... .
Who knew uniform decisions could be like a Zen koan?

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Old 04-19-2006, 06:34 PM   #6
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Yann - thanks. I found a few Blitz suits which look suitable and reasonably priced.

Thomas - personally I prefer white, but it's not my decision. Perhaps it's some kind of test that my Sensei has devised...we'll all come in Black uniforms then he'll want us to get Red ones instead
Hmm..didn't your Sensei offer them out of the dojo? Just wondering... I know mine does, I just decided to order it online because I figured I'd save him gas money, etc of driving all the way to the MA supply store... gasoline here costs $2.95 a gallon I believe, and the store is about 40 miles away.
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Old 04-20-2006, 04:06 PM   #7
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Re: Black Uniforms

You might want to try a heavy weight karate gi. I've used Dragon "Emerald" and they hold up very well http://www.juka.com/uniform/juka.htm#emerald . Dragon also has a ju-jitsu style gi, but I've never tried one.

Also, we've recently started dealing with HSU judo and they have been great to work with and the prices are really reasonable. They also have both a medium weight and heavy weight karate gi. In your basic black. http://www.hsumartialarts.com/ .

Happy shopping

Cheers,
Jack
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:54 PM   #8
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Did your Sensei explained to you why he wants you to change colors? A new Aikido trend????
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:37 AM   #9
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Maybe suggesting your current gi is showing a bit too much dirt?
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Old 04-28-2006, 03:29 AM   #10
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Keith - I have been known to get a bit of blood on my gi now and again (always my own though) so maybe that has something to do with it. I'll know something is definitely up if he replaces the canvas with a black one

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Old 04-28-2006, 03:40 AM   #11
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Re: Black Uniforms

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Keith - I have been known to get a bit of blood on my gi now and again (always my own though) so maybe that has something to do with it. I'll know something is definitely up if he replaces the canvas with a black one
Oh no! No the Black Gi!!!!!

Are you becoming Ninja?

Or is it something about the "Great Unwashed"?

What does the colour of the Gi have to do with anything?

Speak to his Shrink!


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Old 04-28-2006, 09:19 AM   #12
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Re: Black Uniforms

st1 question

Liane Do you guys train on canvas covered mats, or, well, what's underneath? I used to train on a canvas covered surface, but the underlying surface was, if I recall correctly, two layers of different rubber used in bridge joints, one softer than the other. It had some yield, but will last forever. This just came into mind after you mentioned black canvas.


2nd, Why not dye the white dogi black?

http://www.pburch.net/dyeing/fiberreactive.shtml

http://www.fabricstodyefor.com/fabri...yes/pro_mx.htm

Odds are it will be cheaper, and you know it will already fit / be broken in. Reactive dyes attach molecularly to the fibers, instead of just getting tangled up with them as is the case with traditional all-purpose dyes, hence the eventual fading.

Anyway, on the blood side, it might be more hygienic to know if someone is gushing before everyone inadvertantly comes into contact with it.

mike.
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Old 04-28-2006, 04:09 PM   #13
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I think a lot of people go thru a "black gi phase." I think it is part of noble boredom.
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Old 04-28-2006, 05:53 PM   #14
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I think a lot of people go thru a "black gi phase." I think it is part of noble boredom.
Heh..I'd like to see an aikido dojo with black dogi and white hakama :P
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Old 04-28-2006, 07:03 PM   #15
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I think some people just like looking like a ****!


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Old 04-28-2006, 07:30 PM   #16
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I think some people just like looking like a ****!

Ninjas?
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:37 PM   #17
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Re: Black Uniforms

Well, it really saves alot of dirty sight in black.

May be its to let the often-noticed-dirt-on-Gi seems not so noticed with black?

Just wish I am donning a black Gi back then during Karate days. But It will look uninterested when I put on my shodan black belt. :lol: (Will saves me lotta trouble to wash my gi, since its always dirty and full of foot prints after 3hours in badminton court and grassfield.)

Anyway, have your sensei tell you why. Its direct and you don't have think in a circle.(or is it drilling the cow's horn?)
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Old 04-29-2006, 03:32 PM   #18
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Why not dye the white dogi black?
You could try, but most probably the seams are synthetic thread which does not absorb any dye. If you try, make sure to buy really high quality dye since black is the most difficult colour.

You could also go to the Bujinkan forum att http://www.kutaki.org/ and ask there. They know everything about black dogis.
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Old 04-29-2006, 08:16 PM   #19
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I remember one guy with a black dogi and a white belt. The entire time I kept thinking of Oreos!

I guess if you buy a Bujin extra-wide white belt, you could be a Double Stuffed Oreo.

Sorry about the tangent, I couldn't help myself.

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Old 04-29-2006, 10:09 PM   #20
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I remember one guy with a black dogi and a white belt. The entire time I kept thinking of Oreos!

I guess if you buy a Bujin extra-wide white belt, you could be a Double Stuffed Oreo.

Sorry about the tangent, I couldn't help myself.

Have em stand next to a white dogi and white belt and you have milk :P
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Old 04-30-2006, 11:18 AM   #21
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Re: Black Uniforms

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Thomas Dixon wrote:
Heh..I'd like to see an aikido dojo with black dogi and white hakama :P
I actually like the white hakamas. I've seen some pics. The thing is, they don't look so special with white dogis, but with black ones they could look really cool.
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Old 04-30-2006, 05:04 PM   #22
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Sounds like they want to look like a photo negative! Funny, when Aikido is such a positive experience!


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Old 05-02-2006, 10:10 AM   #23
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unless you have an ultra clean floor they'd get very dirty very quickly.
ironing hakama is a pain in the arse anyways without having to wash them all the time as well.

i prefer the traditional colours for aiki. and pretty purple for iai.
how about these nice two-tone ones though? javascript:ol('http://www.shop-japan.co.jp/english-boku/hakama5.htm'); buy me some NOW
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Old 05-02-2006, 11:38 AM   #24
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I did hear about someone having a tartan hakama once!


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Old 05-02-2006, 12:34 PM   #25
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Tartan? Here's a nice pic for you: Black and white
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