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Old 11-15-2001, 11:34 AM   #1
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Article on Ki

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Old 11-16-2001, 04:42 AM   #2
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KAMI : Those people are supposed to "investigate" the "possibility of the existence of Ki"...
But their Lab Head says in that article :
""It was once very difficult to believe the existence of invisible things, such as air, electricity, electromagnetism and radiation," Yamamoto says. "Some people view our research with suspicion. But we believe there is something conventional science can't explain. When we solve the mystery, the 21st century will see a paradigm shift.""
I'd say that experiment is TOTALLY biased...
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Old 11-16-2001, 07:09 AM   #3
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Interesting article. Reminds me of a documentary on scientists who tested a Chinese Qigong healer with ULF microphones placed at the centre of his palms and found that a sound vibration pulsed from these points at a frequency of 6-8hz when he was supposed to have been channeling Qi.

It's interesting how "modern" science attempts to explain a universe it can only perceive through a pin hole

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Old 11-16-2001, 06:22 PM   #4
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KAMI : ah, Yes! I forgot to place this quote from that article :
"But we believe there is something conventional science can't explain. When we solve the mystery, the 21st century will see a paradigm shift."
If science can't explain "something", it's difficult to see how "the 21st Century will see a paradigm shift..."
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Old 11-17-2001, 12:10 PM   #5
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I'd say that experiment is TOTALLY biased...
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I would tend to agree with your assessment.

However, one thing I've been following, albeit very indirectly, are the recent studies which Chiropractors have begun undertaking. In other words, they are trying to find out if the practice works as advertised. My opinion is that if ki healing, etc. really works, then it ought to stand up to impartial study. Not sure that we're getting that here but at least it's kind of an attempt.
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Old 11-17-2001, 01:04 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Kami

KAMI : ah, Yes! I forgot to place this quote from that article :
"But we believe there is something conventional science can't explain. When we solve the mystery, the 21st century will see a paradigm shift."
If science can't explain "something", it's difficult to see how "the 21st Century will see a paradigm shift..."
I think he means conventional science can't explain it YET (current theories). When it does manage to (ie. solve the mystery) you will see a pardigm shift.

History of science is full of those including the examples that they gave. Of course much of what was attributed to Qi in the past has been explained by science. Think of the four humors of old western medicine.

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Old 11-18-2001, 03:37 AM   #7
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[quote]Originally posted by PeterR
[b] I think he means conventional science can't explain it YET (current theories). When it does manage to (ie. solve the mystery) you will see a pardigm shift.[END QUOTE]

I may have misinterpreted it.

[quote]Originally posted by PeterR
[b] History of science is full of those including the examples that they gave. Of course much of what was attributed to Qi in the past has been explained by science. Think of the four humors of old western medicine. [END QUOTE]

I fully agree.
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