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Old 05-11-2007, 06:52 AM   #26
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Darn! I just wish them Japan folks would organize a 10 men match up between Kodokan and Shodokan school consisting of university players. That would be a fantasy match come true.
Judo would win easly, waste of time.

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Old 05-11-2007, 07:05 AM   #27
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That would depend on the rules. I am currently attempting to challenge chuck liddel a match.

I think I have what it takes to beat him in chess.

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Old 05-11-2007, 08:27 AM   #28
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That would depend on the rules. I am currently attempting to challenge chuck liddel a match.

I think I have what it takes to beat him in chess.
HA! Nice.

I remember a friend joking (?) about "chess kickboxing" or something -- that is, you play a couple minutes of chess, then kickbox for a minute, then play some more chess, then kickbox...

(As an aside: I would also put my money on the judoka. Depends on the rules to some extent, but yeah.)
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Old 05-11-2007, 08:55 AM   #29
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(As an aside: I would also put my money on the judoka. Depends on the rules to some extent, but yeah.)
Of course the ruleset would be the determining factor in such a contest. I'm not sure how many people posting actually understand the Shodokan shiai ruleset but they are designed so that you cannot use Judo waza effectively and expect to get any points.

Alternatively however one can get off many of the Shodokan style throws, and elbow waza waza in a Judo context, and if they are done badly in an Aikido sense (sacrifice techniques, muscling through etc.) they fall well within the Judo rules. Often, the waza will just be done at a further distance, but be quite effective. In my little experience I have yet to meet a Judoka who was able to throw me when I kept using Shodokan toshu randori tactics. Of course as soon as I decided to try Judo waza I got planted.

The key is sticking to your tactical set as long as the rules allow it.

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Old 05-14-2007, 02:03 PM   #30
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I remember a friend joking (?) about "chess kickboxing" or something -- that is, you play a couple minutes of chess, then kickbox for a minute, then play some more chess, then kickbox...
The The World Chess Boxing Organization:
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In a chessboxing fight two opponents play alternating rounds of chess and boxing. The contest starts with a round of chess, followed by a boxing round, followed by another round of chess and so on. In every round of chess the FIDE rules for a "Blitz game" apply, in every boxing round amateur boxing rules apply with the following extensions and modifications: In a contest there shall be 11 rounds, 6 rounds of chess, 5 rounds of boxing. A round of chess takes 4 minutes. Each competitor has 12 minutes on the chess timer. As soon as the time runs out the game is over.

A round of boxing takes 2 minutes. Between rounds there is a 1 minute pause, during which competitors change their gear. The contest is decided by: checkmate (chess round), exceeding the time limit (chess round), retirement of an opponent (chess or boxing round), KO (boxing round), or referee decision (boxing round). If the chess game ends in a stalement, the opponent with the higher score in boxing wins. If there is an equal score, the opponent with the black pieces wins.

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Old 05-14-2007, 02:06 PM   #31
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Apparently, Chess-Boxing was also a Kung Fu movie !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSj69X3QPg

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Old 05-14-2007, 06:13 PM   #32
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Just my opinion pertaining to the original post which stated 'It is primarily low-level Aikido that sucks in terms of effectiveness'. I don't know what this means. What is low level Aikido and who's teaching it? If this is referring to what beginning students are first exposed to or " the basics" I have to disagree with the statement
How effective it would be would depend on who its being used against and who is using it. For someone who only has a beginning background in Aikido it would certainly be more valuable than no training. For someone who comes from a mixed martial arts background having some basic Aikido training under ones already "black" belt can be very valuable and effective. In most cases one would most certainly want to utilize skills learned previously before going into an aikido technique. But finishing with an Aikido technique might much more humane for those of us who come from a primarily striking arts background (ie. boxing, TKD ect>>)
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:14 PM   #33
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That would depend on the rules. I am currently attempting to challenge chuck liddel a match.

I think I have what it takes to beat him in chess.
Good luck.
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A short list of largely unknown facts about Chuck Liddell:

He was in the chess club.
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From http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...e=glock/070514

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Old 05-15-2007, 03:39 PM   #34
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Yikes! It was always the smart guys that were also really scary physically that I kept my eyes on...the dumb scary guys were easy to manipulate...

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