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Old 04-17-2007, 07:39 AM   #1
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How many Shihans?

Can anyone tell me how many shihans where recognised by the aikikai at the time of O'sensei's passing?

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Old 04-17-2007, 08:47 AM   #2
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Re: How many Shihans?

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Can anyone tell me how many shihans where recognised by the aikikai at the time of O'sensei's passing?
That's easy - zero.

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Old 04-17-2007, 01:34 PM   #3
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That's easy - zero.

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What about Tohei? Not a rhetorical question here...
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:11 PM   #4
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What about Tohei? Not a rhetorical question here...
There was no official "shihan" certification until fairly recently. Normal practice in Japan was (and more or less still is) that anybody 6th dan and up would be called "shihan", so the answer to the question "officially recognized as shihan" would be "zero".

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Old 04-17-2007, 07:10 PM   #5
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There was no official "shihan" certification until fairly recently. Normal practice in Japan was (and more or less still is) that anybody 6th dan and up would be called "shihan", so the answer to the question "officially recognized as shihan" would be "zero".

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Wasn't Tohei named "shihan bucho" of Hombu in 1956? Wouldn't that make him officially a shihan?

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Old 04-17-2007, 07:47 PM   #6
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Wasn't Tohei named "shihan bucho" of Hombu in 1956? Wouldn't that make him officially a shihan?

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No, that would make him "head of the department" ("bucho") for "instructors" ("shihan").

"Shihan" is just another word for "instructor", and there were never any "official" designations until, as I said before, fairly recently. So far as I know, most Japanese don't even realize that there are "official" designations now - Japanese instructors have been called "shihan" for years without the "official certification" that foreigners are required to receive.

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Old 04-22-2007, 06:43 AM   #7
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That's easy - zero.

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Thank you, much appreciated, perhaps a revised question would be how many 6th dan and above where there at the time of O'sensei's passing.

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Old 04-22-2007, 07:53 AM   #8
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Re: How many Shihans?

When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:

".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"



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Old 04-22-2007, 10:26 AM   #9
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When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:

".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"



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One, but only if the lightbulb makes the first move

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Old 04-22-2007, 11:14 AM   #10
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".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"
Hmmm... Tenkan on top of a ladder... Interesting.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:59 AM   #11
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When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:

".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"



Mike
Yeah I thought of making that joke...

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