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Old 02-27-2007, 12:38 PM   #51
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

I see its been discussed allready....interesting thoughts guys....
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:00 PM   #52
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Absolutely. Google for Tueller Drill.

Spend some time thinking about how you are going to draw your gun while a determined attacker is in the process of trying to beat your brains in.

For people who decide to go through life armed, martial arts are necessary to survive an engagement for long enough to access a weapon.

For people who go through life unarmed (whether by choice or law), martial arts are necessary to survive an engagement for long enough to access the attacker's weapon.

Maybe the odds aren't good, but the right training will improve them.

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My point was that people say well MMA wont work against a sword. So by logical extention, no martial art works, because of guns.

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Old 02-27-2007, 03:21 PM   #53
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

There is nothing wrong with mma....as a matter of fact the longer I study Aikido and the more research I do, the more I see that MMA is probably the best way to go for self defense and definitelly for actual fight experience. Sword versus MMA is a very silly argument in my eyes.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:00 PM   #54
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

Yea it has already been discussed some. It is "alive"-r"...or more alive...AND it really is hard (or easy) to be a critic of a video that can be taken out of context....

It is sparring for sure. However, not much offered really in aliveness. There is nothing wrong with this as a warm up, exercise, or to work on kicks etc....

but, does not train the core of aliveness. They are kicking and punching and really doing things politely and at a peripherial level...not affecting the core or center much.

Slight improvement...maybe...over randori...

They disengage from clinch range and back up and start over again and again....a risky proposition in alive training.

That said, they could simply be training a particular range and moving back out again...it is hard to tell.

Obviously, both are skilled at what they do.

Just think want to point out that this, to me, is not really encompassing much aliveness as many of us are talking about in the context that we are talking about it.

Just a slightly amped up form of randori with a thai boxer.

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Old 03-11-2007, 09:12 AM   #55
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Aikido VS Muay Thai

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cBg2tTCYL0

what do you thinking about?

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Old 03-11-2007, 09:26 AM   #56
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Re: Aikido VS Muay Thai

it was discussed on this thread.

http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showth...ight=muay+thai

check it out and see if it answers your questions! Good luck.

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Old 03-11-2007, 02:47 PM   #57
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

For those of you who don't speak Russian (ehehe) the announcer says pre-fight that it has been agreed the aiki guy would not do any grappling, and he announces at several points where he thinks they fight would have "ended" as the aiki guy was apparently in a position for some kind of submission that he purposefully didn't do.

Overall, I think the aiki guy did alright, and that kotegashi wasn't bad. He grabbed alot of the MT guy's kicks (rather light looking kicks) where he could have done something more final, and likewise, the MT guy looked like he would have fractured the aiki guy's head with some of those mock knee strikes.

Dunno what exactly this video was meant to show really, but bear in mind the two guys looked the same weight class.
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:50 PM   #58
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

Roman, does it give a purpose for the exhibition? what was the intent of the fight?

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Old 03-11-2007, 03:03 PM   #59
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

To be honest, it looks like some dodgy Russian thing. (We're popular in that area) Just some translated bits from the vid:

The announcer says viewers have cast their votes in the previous show to see styles pitted against each other. He says "the best" representatives from both styles are here to fight. Sounds a bit like BS to me, as a young 2nd dan aiki guy is far from the best representative of his style.

The aiki guy is a 2nd dan from a Moscow dojo. The funny part is, I just noticed the aiki guy (70kg) outweighs the MT guy! (65kg)

The MT guy is the Belorussian champion in MT and "champion of the world" in kick boxing. Not kidding, I'm just the translator.

The announcer at the end says the "real" goal of the video was not to show which was better, but to highlight the positives of each style. He says it's up to the "viewer" to decide which they though was better.

If enough people want, I can put in subtitles from the announcers comments during the match and the pre-fight talks.
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:38 PM   #60
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

Thanks for the info...it helps!

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Old 02-03-2009, 03:01 PM   #61
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

I know this is an old thread but, the video seems to be removed from YouTube and does anyone know a fresh link for that video? Because I really wanna see it.

Last edited by Norton : 02-03-2009 at 03:04 PM.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:39 PM   #62
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:53 AM   #63
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

The thing about Aikido is that it's techniques are so deadly you can't spar with someone because you would kill them and aikido would be, you know,banned the world over.

If you're hungry, keep moving.
If you're tired, keep moving.
If you value you're life, keep moving.

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Old 02-04-2009, 07:47 AM   #64
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Grant..that is a secret...people are supposed to think that aikido is about tofu eating and peace. We like it that way!

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Old 02-04-2009, 09:27 AM   #65
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Thanks for the link.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:41 PM   #66
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

is it possible to combine aikido's footwork and techniques with boxing? cos in the video, there was an opening for a few uppercuts and hooks to the body if the aikidoka knew how to throw those punches.
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:59 AM   #67
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Re: aikido vs muay thai sparring video

Kuroiwa Sensei has combined aikido with his background as an amateur boxer.. You can view an example of his techniques here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyxbvg4fJ-M&fmt=18

This clip is more complete but lacks the English translation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKcmf-0H9YY&fmt=18

I really like the way he has incorporated boxing, especially the uppercut and hook, into his aikido..

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Old 02-15-2009, 08:22 PM   #68
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interesting, thanks.
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