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Old 01-15-2007, 07:14 AM   #1
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Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

This is a video Christmas card a young student who is 5th Kyu sent to her grandmother, she is demonstrating primarily Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage. Our Sensei is looking for some feedback.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4rnMzjRMUQ
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:19 AM   #2
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

Thats a 5th kyu?
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:32 AM   #3
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

Yeah,

I have to say I'm a little surprised she is a 5th kyu also.
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Old 01-15-2007, 09:56 AM   #4
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

is 5th kyu not a white belt? She looks to be in brown or black strange!!!!

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Old 01-15-2007, 10:05 AM   #5
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

She might be 5th kyu, but her uke's aren't.

Not to detract from what she is doing, but you have to keep these things in mind or you risk losing perspective.
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Old 01-15-2007, 10:15 AM   #6
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

In our Dojo the ranking system is

Beginner is White
7 Kyu is Yellow
6 Kyu is Yellow
5 Kyu is Green
4 Kyu is Green
3 Kyu is Brown
2 Kyu is Brown
1 Kyu is Brown

She started training a little less then a year ago and this is her only martial art experience.
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Old 01-15-2007, 10:20 AM   #7
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She might be 5th kyu, but her uke's aren't.
We all can tell her uke's are not, but then we are not talking about the uke's....

Last edited by thinking : 01-15-2007 at 10:22 AM.

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Old 01-15-2007, 10:21 AM   #8
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Yup not bad for a 5th kyu. Good ukemi.
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Old 01-15-2007, 10:38 AM   #9
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Some organizations use white all the way to 1st kyu-then black. Belt is not an indicator.
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:30 PM   #10
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quite hard to work out in any detail the video with all the special effects or editing going on.
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Old 01-15-2007, 04:57 PM   #11
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She looked great.

Tell Brian he's a pussy.
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:53 PM   #12
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

5th kyu?

Wow...

She's better than I am...

Her shikko (膝行)is pretty good...

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Old 01-15-2007, 08:03 PM   #13
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

Quote:
Tony Iannetta wrote:
This is a video Christmas card a young student who is 5th Kyu sent to her grandmother, she is demonstrating primarily Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage. Our Sensei is looking for some feedback.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4rnMzjRMUQ
Good general feeling as for one year beginner.

However, her way receiving yokoment is very big mistake and she did it few times - it may indicate she was taught such way.
Other think is lack of posture -- after one year she should have good posture.It will be now very difficult to develop.

She did few sutemi-like throws and I believe it is too early for her even if she is gifted person. The mechanique of this throw is complelty different, it is simply too difficult for her.

The fact that flying uke uke are doing all job for her in all these techniques may build false confidence in her head, and surely helps to develop bad technique.

But I said, for one year practice it is quite good.

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Old 01-15-2007, 08:31 PM   #14
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

I enjoyed watching this clip. It looks like she trains often and hard.

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Old 01-15-2007, 10:46 PM   #15
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

Comparing what she does to some of the those 10th DANn Soke-Doke No Touch Ki Blast Losers... I think she is doing better aikido.

Just a note: I see she is doing a lot of Yoko-yaware (Judo'esque sutemi-waza)... if she would drop down more abrupt and bridge a little and turn to the throwing direction, she would be getting Ippons!

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Old 01-15-2007, 11:27 PM   #16
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man... 5th Kyu... I don't think she was 5th Kyu at all.... couldn't be, it's either she's suuuper talented or she's been training 24/7 since the beginning....
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:19 AM   #17
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I'm gonna save this movie and show it to everyone who says Aikido takes too much time to learn

She must have a very good instructor.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:11 AM   #18
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No way she is 5th qyu.Absolutely no way. But then again, if she is, we are looking at a rare talent with the brightest future!
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:44 AM   #19
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I bet her grandmother is really proud

OK, so it's been a bit coreographed but for one year's experience that's still pretty good by my reckoning.
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Old 01-16-2007, 06:38 AM   #20
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

Thanks for all the feed back, this girl trains 4 nights a week and our class size is small so we can dedicate individual attention. The video may seemed choreographed but all demonstrations and testing are done free form, nage does not know which attacks they are receiving. We do our best to keep it as realistic as possible.
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Old 01-16-2007, 07:47 AM   #21
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No way I was that good at her level of experience. Kudos to her and her instructor. Stephanes criticisms are spot on...but hey, who cares? At her level/competance, the posture thing (most important) should not be that hard to retrain. She should be carefull using those sutemi without the things Boon noted if the uke is not compliant.

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Old 01-16-2007, 07:50 AM   #22
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

Quote:
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The video may seemed choreographed but all demonstrations and testing are done free form, nage does not know which attacks they are receiving. We do our best to keep it as realistic as possible.
Tony,
At the begining when she is in seiza and the attackers are running at her what is that attack? I.E. if she did not move what would happen, how would the attackers finish their attacks? I ask this question in all honesty as I have seen this many times and for the life of me I can not figure out the advantage to such an attack or why anyone would run that hard at a person on his/her knees.

As for the clip I agree with S-pan above that her posture needs attention. At times it is fine at other times it is weak. Nice clip and keep training.

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Old 01-16-2007, 08:27 AM   #23
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No way I was that good at her level of experience......


And now Ron

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Old 01-16-2007, 08:40 AM   #24
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Re: Aiki Nage and Irimi Nage Demonstration

Hey, the truth hurts...but there it is. Whatcha' gonna do?

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Old 01-16-2007, 08:48 AM   #25
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Same here. After a year of training I felt like I could barely get out of my own way on the mat. Which is why my first reaction was, "That's a fifth kyu?"
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