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Old 08-13-2000, 10:11 PM   #26
Kristina Morris
Dojo: Kannagara Jinja
Location: Granite Falls, WA.
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 29

Well, James,

I don't really know any catchy 'Zen' sayings. If my training partner asks me "What am I doing wrong?", and keeps repeating the question, then I'd have to answer them directly to the best of my ability. ( If I actually _know_ what they are doing wrong), I'll tell them in as few words as possible. If I don't, then my first response still stands. Sometimes a short, one word 'tip' will steer someone in the right direction. Usually, though, I need just as much help as my partner.
Another aspect to consider is that often times uke takes ahold of nage's forearm and just stands there, waiting for nage to perform the technique. Movement on the part of uke really helps nage learn the technique. "What am I doing wrong?" can often be solved by what uke 'isn't doing right'.

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Old 08-13-2000, 11:34 PM   #27
Dojo: Muhu Dojo
Location: Middle of nowhere in California 14 miles from Buellton
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 238
X-men rocked!! ( had a really good pottentall to suck though)

anyhow I am a autoray learner ( meaning i learn by hearing) and I am hearing impaired kinda a slappe in the face and no aikido throw can stop it. so when I do something wrong my teacher shows me the correct way. then i usually ask how am I doing the throw and he show this helps me by seeing what i am doing and what he wants me to do.

( I missed gambit and beast in x-men)
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Old 08-15-2000, 07:00 PM   #28
Dojo: Aiki Kun Ren (Iwama style)
Location: Sydney
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 166
well I may be a little late in this reply.....I've been snowboarding
anyways when training at my dojo I haven't had a chance to be a sempai as I am fairly new but as kohai I keep silent, some sempai will talk and explain the movements. I have one sempai whom I really enjoy trianing with, she is very pedantic and stresses all the tiny little details of movements until I get it correct, she is very verbal and I enjoy her explinations as I manage to soak up and remember everything she says. Every sempai I train with has something different to add, their own interpretation of the movement and I never disregard any of them even if I have been told something different from a sempai at a higher level, instead I try to incorporate everyones input into the movement, using what works and discarding what doesn't. I enjoy training very much but I don't think a sempai should be completely mute, little pointers here and there serve incredibly well and add to the overall learning of everyone involved.

just my scattered two cents

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Old 08-15-2000, 08:30 PM   #29
Location: Atlanta, GA
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 563
I listen to what the sempai/sensei/shihan tells me, reply "hai", and do my best to turn their words into something tangible (IE a technique).


Nick Porter
"Do not fall into the trap of the artisan who boasts twenty years of experience, when in fact he has had only one year of experience-- twenty times."
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Old 08-16-2000, 01:09 AM   #30
Dojo: formerly Windward Aikido, formerly at Keewenaw Schools of Aikido (ASU)
Location: Formerly Hawaii Pacific University, formerly at Michigan Technological University
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 71
Talking dead reckoning

I stand corrected. I do remember what one of the original "Mute Sempai" said to me. Something this last Monday about talking/typing on the aikiweb forum... believe me a lot is lost in the retelling. Point: sorry, that is private between the two of us, but remember that some of us talk to hear our own voice and some of us type our words for eye candy. That doesn't mean that I support having tongues pierced and fingers put into chinese finger cuffs (although those life styles are fine for some). Aikido is grey, just like life. I'm just trying to find out which shade of gray it is.
How's this: If I'm talking in practice for my partner, then I should talk. If I'm quiet in practice for my partner, then I should be quiet. If I'm doing either just to maintain my own illusions about myself, then I should consider the opposite.
That is what I wanted to validate. Not whether ear-muffs or audio-disks are better training equipment. That being said *smiles*, what are queues that you look for in deciding how to deal with a question? Can one trust that someone knows what is right for themselves? If one gives to another in good faith something other than what the supplicant wanted or expected, how often is that a better gift?

"One does not find wisdom in another's words." -James D. Chye
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