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Old 06-19-2006, 12:14 PM   #1
Lucy Smith
Dojo: Samurai Dojo
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Well this is a most specific thread about using Aikido Principles in Physical Activities...

I started surfing last summer, which is from December to February, for those of you who don't know where I'm from And I started Aikido in March. I had no idea that I would be starting Aikido, during the summer. I managed not to get killed surfing (who knows how), even as I had a few accidents.
I realized too, that surfing and Aikido have a lot in common. They are both related to nature and the natural flow of the Universe. They don't try to change the universe but to adapt to it. The feeling of satisfaction when accomplishing a new step (ikkyo, standing on the board) is amazing.
I've also been thinking that the stance is pretty similar. So I imagine the balance should work pretty much in the same way. The problem is that I can't surf during winter, not because of the weather, but because in my city the largest wave is about two inches tall.
Soooo my question is... for those of you who practice both, or have a friend who practices both, or just want to write cos' they're bored: can Aikido principles, balance, projection of Ki, state of mind, be applied to surfing??? Do you surf better now that you do Aikido??? Do you practice Aikido better now that you surf???

Thank you in advance
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:10 PM   #2
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Re: Surfing

I've never seen a picture of a surfer standing straight with no bend in his knees, so I imagine that lowering your center of gravity is probably a good thing. (not that I know; the waves only get a few inches tall here, too. )

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Old 06-19-2006, 03:51 PM   #3
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Re: Surfing

James Davis, Jr. wrote:
I've never seen a picture of a surfer standing straight with no bend in his knees, so I imagine that lowering your center of gravity is probably a good thing. (not that I know; the waves only get a few inches tall here, too. )
I guess you haven't seen the old Hawaian surfers, standing straight - arms crossed - on a tall board

Well it is like old shihan, who often lower their center invisibly for normal human beings. You see just a hand moving and uke flying. Then they pretend on all the technique coming from hara

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Old 06-19-2006, 04:32 PM   #4
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Re: Surfing

My 76 year old instructor goes water-skiing regularly and he says its the same thing, so so is surfing. He usually uses skiing analogies when explaining moving from center, relaxed stance and open awareness...


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Old 06-19-2006, 05:27 PM   #5
Mark Freeman
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Re: Surfing

Lucy Smith wrote:
I realized too, that surfing and Aikido have a lot in common. They are both related to nature and the natural flow of the Universe. They don't try to change the universe but to adapt to it.
Hi Lucy, you are spot on!

I often use the analogy of the natural motion of waves when trying to get some point across in aikido. Waves do not struggle, they just are, their timing is perfect
I have a couple of surfers in my class ( and me! ) and we all agree that the two activities are complementary. Balance, relaxation, timing, mental focus and extension, and the sensitivity to feel the 'energy' are applied to both. Waves can be soft and gentle or large and powerfull, just like aikido. Learning to fall with relaxation also applies to both.
I have found however that I don't have to hold my breath for so long when I'm thrown in aikido
Two of life's great pleasures are catching a good wave and riding it out, and performing an effortless aikido throw against a full on attack, one is wet and the other dry

be safe in the water!



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Old 06-20-2006, 06:43 PM   #6
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Re: Surfing

(forgive me .. im eating rice krispies as well as posting .. so there may be spelling mistakes .. as its 0145)
so what were saying is .. when I go to newquay in the summer and have my 1st surfing lesson .... all i gotta think is to appy some good ol aikido in to the mix and I hopefully wont suck as bad as me mates?
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:23 PM   #7
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Re: Surfing

Unfortunately for me, the only tubes I've ever got to surf are the Northern and Bakerloo lines (subways), but I've often tried to adopt aikido stance whilst daring not to hold on to the hand rails. Ocassionally, this has meant bumping into fellow passengers, and on the last train home can neccesiatate retaining a degree of martial awareness! I imagine that, as with surfing a real wave it makes for interesting aikido practice because you can't pre-empt when the driver's going to hit the breaks/when the wave will change, therefore forcing you to rely on feeling. I have to aknowledge, however that the seaside probably makes for a nicer dojo.
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Old 06-21-2006, 08:15 PM   #8
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Re: Surfing

I would think that Aikido can be applied to anything in life in some form or another

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