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Old 07-15-2006, 09:59 AM   #51
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To my defense I'll say that English is my second language!
No need for a defense I only know one language so you're way ahead of me!

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His arrogant manner rubbed off on his students, and those who were arrogant to begin with just became obnoxious
Thats one of the worst things about martial arts in my opinion - ego. Like techniques (including bad habits) I think an instructors ego and attitude rub off on their students in a big way.

I've found that in a lot of other arts (speaking with students, not practicing it) there is a need to prove their effectiveness which usually includes pointing out the faults in other styles of martial arts. "My style is the best, yours is crap" They don't seem content with doing their own martial art while someone else does something different.

I find 'aikidoa' really stand out in the martial arts community because more often than not they are the opposite of this need to prove yourself mentality.

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Old 07-15-2006, 01:18 PM   #52
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I've attended a dojo where the teacher doesn't 'teach' humility at all,...
I don't teach humility either. I teach budo.

Don't have time to do all that subtle crap. It's all I can do to try to show my students how to move, think, react and hopefully get the frak out of the way.

Can you TEACH humility? I thot it was kind of a personal thing ... you know, personal responsibility and all that.

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Old 07-15-2006, 03:47 PM   #53
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I don't teach humility either. I teach budo.

Don't have time to do all that subtle crap. It's all I can do to try to show my students how to move, think, react and hopefully get the frak out of the way.

Can you TEACH humility? I thot it was kind of a personal thing ... you know, personal responsibility and all that.
Uhm.. I won't claim to know how one teaches humility, but sometimes you know when a class is lacking that. I think honesty with the students was missing there. Perhaps too much positive feedback.
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Old 07-15-2006, 04:04 PM   #54
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Uhm.. I won't claim to know how one teaches humility...
Maybe being uke for NagaBaba.
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:37 AM   #55
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Uhm.. I won't claim to know how one teaches humility
I would say teach by example.

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Old 07-16-2006, 02:35 PM   #56
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"... ponder this on the Tree of Woe."
THAT'S IT!!! Thanks to John Boswell I now know the answer! Here it is:

"Crawsh your enemy...see zem driven bevore you..aahnd hear zeh lamentation of zeh vemon!!"
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Old 07-17-2006, 06:12 AM   #57
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Being an Aikidoka --- one must enternalize all basic principles in Aikido.The Love of Harmony and One who respects individual Ki.
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:18 AM   #58
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Damn, after reading those beautiful posts I'll have to start voting the "don't do aikido again" in Jun's polls... alternatively I could always start taking mushroom tea again.
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:41 AM   #59
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Damn, after reading those beautiful posts I'll have to start voting the "don't do aikido again" in Jun's polls... alternatively I could always start taking mushroom tea again.
Ah..that's where you get your venerability from

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Old 07-17-2006, 02:54 PM   #60
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Now what aikido is and what aikido means to you is an all together different thing.

In retrospect I probably should have phrased the title "What does it mean to be an aikidoka to you" but I left it open not for correction but for your own interpretation. Take what you will away from this thread, we as aikidoka know deep inside what Aikido means and what it means to each of us individually. It is different for each person but, it is just one of the many paths we all travel to get to the same destination.
Thank you all for your comments.
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:21 PM   #61
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I am brand new to this website, so please forgive me if no one knows who I am. I have just begun studying aikido and in the three months that i have practiced, my opinion about the art has changed completely. At first it was, when can I get my black belt and how do I throw someone down and make it look really cool...

Now, I come to class to train, learn and live a better life through the practice of aikido. I think for me, this is what an aikidoka is.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:46 PM   #62
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Really not much outside of being a person who shows mercy over killing, and who studies Aikido to make the world a better place.
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:01 PM   #63
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To me it means learning to get along with others instead of contending;....having more of an accepting disposition; freedom from fear of external forces to be oneself....striving through disciplined training to become more like the good characters I admire in history. Seeing things for what they are. Leaning about one's true self.
Learning to form sincere connections with others.


On the subject of humility:

Before honor is humility.

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Old 01-24-2010, 05:59 PM   #64
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Before honor is humility.
Not in the dictionary it's not.
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:55 PM   #65
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Not in the dictionary it's not.
Thank you for informing me and contributing to the discussion.

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Old 01-25-2010, 06:30 AM   #66
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Thank you for informing me and contributing to the discussion.
Yes, well, as you were resurrecting a nine-month-old thread ("discussion" might be a bit of a stretch after that amount of time), I didn't see any great harm in injecting a little humor.
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:10 AM   #67
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To me it means being swift and agile as the wind through the trees, solid and grounded like the earth below my feet, fluid like the flowing stream, and to shine with an inner fire that no person may extinguish. Most of all it means having compassion for someone that may be trying to hurt you in any way. Protect uke to preserve uke, things can change in an instant.
Hello,

Gosh, I'd love to be like this. I think I've got the compassion and protection bits right, but being swift and agile as the wind through the trees (as in Star Wars VI) is somewhat difficult now (at my age), though the inner fire is still there and is probably as unquenchable was it was when I first started. And I have found that things take rather longer to change than in an instant. But, YMMV.

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Old 01-25-2010, 11:39 AM   #68
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Yes, well, as you were resurrecting a nine-month-old thread ("discussion" might be a bit of a stretch after that amount of time), I didn't see any great harm in injecting a little humor.
Truth be told Mrs. Malmros, my initial reaction was defensive and one of "well na na na boo boo to you as well". Not knowing from where you were coming from I decided on the high road, (even though I admit it sounds a little sarcastic) and I see it paid dividends as I now know it was meant in jest.

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Old 01-25-2010, 11:47 AM   #69
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To me it means being swift and agile as the wind through the trees, solid and grounded like the earth below my feet, fluid like the flowing stream, and to shine with an inner fire that no person may extinguish. Most of all it means having compassion for someone that may be trying to hurt you in any way. Protect uke to preserve uke, things can change in an instant.
I'm with the proffessor on this one.
Bryant I must say, either you're an old soul in his twenties that walks the nature trails with hands clasped behind his back pondering the sound of one hand clapping with Squirrelfart, your trusty familiar on your shoulder; or you watch too much Crouching Tiger movies.
(Forgive me; I couldn't resist....I'm laughing with you not at you).

"My bad" in the colloquial.

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Old 01-25-2010, 12:09 PM   #70
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I decided on the high road
That was the "high road"?
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I'm with the proffessor on this one.
Bryant I must say, either you're an old soul in his twenties that walks the nature trails with hands clasped behind his back pondering the sound of one hand clapping with Squirrelfart, your trusty familiar on your shoulder; or you watch too much Crouching Tiger movies.
(Forgive me; I couldn't resist....I'm laughing with you not at you).

"My bad" in the colloquial.
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:38 PM   #72
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To be an aikidoka is to feel and be humbly grateful;

Grateful for the Founder, for devoting his life,skills and commitment to create a workable path for us to study and to emulate in our own way.

Grateful for the Second Doshu, for using his influence, unique character, and his devotion to maintaining the environment for his father's marvelous gift to mankind to be available over generations.

Grateful to the Sensei's, Sempai's, training peers, unconditional love from our family and friends to allow us to walk our paths with dignity, purpose and some success.

Grateful to the current and incoming generations of devoted seekers of the Way of Aiki, that help validate all the work that has been done before, the foundation for keeping the spirit of the Founder's dream alive and vibrant. Their promise of change and epiphanies fuel our work even more today.

Grateful for Jun Akiyama, the Aiki Web, and for all the invaluable posts and contributions that keep our conversations alive and ongoing.

You get to fill in your own contributions from here.
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That was the "high road"?
It's all right......shhh...You'll be okay.

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What did you do to the Haggis?
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:37 AM   #75
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If I may add, on this tread...., b’coz I think, I like where this tread is heading, reading from the posts above; it encourage me to share something out.

>To be an Aikidoka’ for me is to know why Aikido; is ‘different from every Other Martial Arts’? & to know ‘where it came from’? The ‘mission & vision’ of the ‘founder’; & who is ‘Morihie Ueshiba’? & why should I have to wear a ‘HAKAMA & DOGI’? What are the ‘Virtues’? and finally ‘what; is it all there in AIKIDO’? & why I have the feeling; so uncontagious that I need to share it w/everyone

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