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Old 04-30-2006, 07:46 PM   #1
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Trying to Get the Tai Sabaki Straight

I'm trying to get the following Tai Sabaki Names straight in my head:

Ushiro Tenkan #1 --- I know as stepping out and back 45 to the left from Migi Kamae. Is there another name?

Ushiro Tenkan # 2 --- I know as stepping back 45 to the right from Migi Kamae. Is there another name?

Koho Tenkan --- Is this stepping in Ayumi Ashi Tenkan to reverse the direction of the Uke?

What is the difference between Okuri Ashi and Tsugi Ashi?

KAI
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Old 04-30-2006, 11:20 PM   #2
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Re: Trying to Get the Tai Sabaki Straight

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What is the difference between Okuri Ashi and Tsugi Ashi?
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Okuri-ashi - step with your front foot, and then bring your back foot into position.

Tsugi-ashi - bring your back foot up to your front foot, and then step forward with the front foot.

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Old 05-01-2006, 05:42 PM   #3
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Thanks Josh ... do you happen to know what the roots of the words are for Okuri and Tsugi?

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Old 05-02-2006, 01:03 AM   #4
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Re: Trying to Get the Tai Sabaki Straight

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Okuri 送り derives from the verb okuru, meaning "to send", but also has an older meaning of "to follow". So, I suppose one could think of it as "sending" the front foot first, or thinking of it as the back foot "following" the front foot.

Tsugi 継ぎ derives from the verb tsugu, which has a general modern meaning of "inherit", but has a broader meaning of "continuing, connecting". One way of looking at it, I suppose, is that the back foot "passes on" the movement to the front foot.

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Old 05-02-2006, 08:39 AM   #5
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Re: Trying to Get the Tai Sabaki Straight

okay, so i totally didn't notice that this was in the language thread and set off writing down a few ways to get your tai sabaki straight, PHYSICALLY!!!! oh well, never mind eh!

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Old 05-02-2006, 04:54 PM   #6
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Re: Trying to Get the Tai Sabaki Straight

Thanks again Josh. That helps alot. Anyone out there got ideas for the Koho or Ushiro Tenkan?

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Old 05-02-2006, 06:15 PM   #7
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We refer to Ushiro Tenkan #1 as "Tenshin." You'll find this term used in Best Aikido by Moriteru Ueshiba and they define it as a "sweeping body turn." I have also heard of Ushiro Tenkan #2 called "tenshin" as well.

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Old 05-06-2006, 12:19 PM   #8
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Thanks Ann Marie. Do you happen to know what the root of the word is for Ten Shin? There are so many variants.

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Old 05-06-2006, 01:16 PM   #9
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Thanks Ann Marie. Do you happen to know what the root of the word is for Ten Shin? There are so many variants.

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I have no clue what the root for "tenshin" is.

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Old 05-06-2006, 02:09 PM   #10
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"Tenshin" is simply a noun: 転身 - ten = turn, pivot (as in "tenkan" 転換), shin = body.

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Old 06-01-2006, 09:35 AM   #11
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Koho means way behind you. Immediately behind you would be ushiro.
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