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Old 06-05-2006, 10:37 AM   #126
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Re: Any instructors here ever challenged?

It's nice when they honestly want to "play". My experience has been too often they are more interested in proving their art is superior. It's nice - although rare - when I can steer someone like this in the direction of Aikido. Mostly, though, the best I hope for is to "defeat" the guy and not disrupt my class too much.

("Defeat" is in quotes because of the dichotomy in attitudes in such a situation. A person like this comes in thinking of it as a contest and I try not to - with varying degrees of success. Because of his attitude, if I succeed he will be defeated, but I try not to think of it as winning on my part. It's tough to maintain the correct attitude in the face of this type of competitiveness, but I really do try.)

But it really comes down to why they are there. If they are there with a sincere interest in Aikido, it generally sorts itself out pretty quickly. If they are there just to be difficult, well, that also sorts itself out, but in a different way.

I do remember this one guy who showed up when I was a fairly green teacher. It didn't go well. He resisted, I insisted. He never came back. I wonder how I would handle him now...

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Old 06-06-2006, 08:08 AM   #127
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Re: Any instructors here ever challenged?

This is a post training message. He came back and his outlook was somewhat different. Maybe all that Judo randori forced the playful evasive guy out of him, but he learnt very quickly that aikido works. The clenched fist I talked about was gorgeous when sensei did a cut to his tricept (check spelling) like kind of a yonkyo in a nikyo/ikkyo lock, but to the upper part of the arm (very painful) I stepped up to sensei after, requesting to feel the technique, oh yeah it was effective alright. Maybe this nerve manipulation is not new to some of you, but me it was, and I was speachless.Seems like sensei had an answer for everything this guy threw at him. I could only answer a few. I LOVE AIKIDO!

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Old 06-06-2006, 09:03 AM   #128
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Re: Any instructors here ever challenged?

Bicep and tricep slicers are fun fun things. I love using them on guys who are resisting takedowns or armbars.

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Old 06-07-2006, 11:12 PM   #129
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Re: Any instructors here ever challenged?

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Mathew McDowell wrote:
This is a post training message. He came back and his outlook was somewhat different. Maybe all that Judo randori forced the playful evasive guy out of him, but he learnt very quickly that aikido works. The clenched fist I talked about was gorgeous when sensei did a cut to his tricept (check spelling) like kind of a yonkyo in a nikyo/ikkyo lock, but to the upper part of the arm (very painful) I stepped up to sensei after, requesting to feel the technique, oh yeah it was effective alright. Maybe this nerve manipulation is not new to some of you, but me it was, and I was speachless.Seems like sensei had an answer for everything this guy threw at him. I could only answer a few. I LOVE AIKIDO!
i just started so i haven't experienced most of what you're talking about. but your last sentence is very exhilaratingly said. yes, i agree as well. cheers mato-san...
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