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Old 06-22-2002, 09:24 AM   #1
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Is it possible to learn aikido from your home without ever going to a dojo? By using books and videos?
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Old 06-22-2002, 09:41 AM   #2
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Re: Learning

" NO !"
Aikido is learned by interacting,body to body.
Yours - Chr.B.
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Old 06-22-2002, 11:54 AM   #3
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Learning by doing ..

Never happen.

Unless you can come up with a fully interactive crash dummie robot that has sensors and can react with pressure and motion in a preprogrammed response that determines the predispositioned ....

Just kidding.

No.

You need to feel, be shown, and experience the movements of aikido to gain perspective to balance, movement, and a whole host of little details that give you the ability to have transitional flow.

Get thee to Aikido class.
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Old 06-22-2002, 07:10 PM   #4
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There's no way to learn Aikido--or any truely interactive sensing art--from books or videos, and you can always spot people who have tried just that. They perform crude movements with no 'life', no understanding of the underlying principles that actually make techniques work.
Also, you need to train your mind--to control it in crises--and your spirit, or no matter how many techniques you learn you won't have the internal structure to support them when an intense moment calls for appropriate action...or inaction. These things you learn in training with others because, in time, they will expose all of your dark corners, push all of your buttons, tap into all of your fears and insecurities. Whether they know it or not, my classmates are vital to my refinement.
There are, of course, exceptions to everything I just said, but they're few and far between. Good luck!

~~Paula~~
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Old 06-22-2002, 08:39 PM   #5
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Hi Reuben,

Is it the cost of dues at the only dojo in the yellow pages in Las Vegas that is making you consider home schooling (hey, how about a military discount!)...

Well, there are actually five or six dojos in Las Vegas, most are new since I was there, but I'd recommend checking out the UNLV Aikido Club (not only because I think the instructors are great)... military can pay state resident fees (I don't remember, maybe it was $70/semester, so $140 for the year) to take the class each semester as a special student at the university (ie, you don't have to really be 'admitted' to UNLV), and club dues to take the classes on weekends and holidays are unbelievably low. They will also gladly give you the names and locations of the other dojos... I've met and trained with several folks from the newer places, and they seemed very nice...
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Old 06-22-2002, 10:22 PM   #6
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You can certainly learned a lot "about" Aikido by reading and watching videos, but you cannot learn Aikido without a training partner and competent Sensei.

Until again,

Lynn

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We do not rise to the level of our expectations, but fall to the level of our training. Train well. KWATZ!
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Old 06-25-2002, 08:55 AM   #7
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If by learning on your own you mean that you will not interact with anyone else, then no, it's not really possible.

If however, you mean that you and a partner will train from the video or books that you get, then I would say the answer is yes. You can learn aikido.

A few years back, it was common for many people in the certain geographic regions to be "tape trained" in bjj. (A group would purchase a video tape series and go through each technique and each lesson). Frankly, people who did so were in the same ball park as those who trained with instructors (provided the "tape trainers" had a good training environment).


Look at it this way.... If you join a dojo and the instructor demonstrates technique for the class, and then class pairs up and works on the technique, and so on.... What advantage is the instructor providing that a quality video tape could not?

If, however, the instructor works with each person in the class individually, and makes corrections and suggestions to each person individually, and makes themselves available for questions and additional individual help, then they are providing more than a video tape could.


Regards,

Paul
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Old 06-25-2002, 10:52 AM   #8
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Originally posted by paw
Look at it this way.... If you join a dojo and the instructor demonstrates technique for the class, and then class pairs up and works on the technique, and so on.... What advantage is the instructor providing that a quality video tape could not?
One of the things about tape programs is that even the bad one's often have a certain focus, direction or progression to them. That same focus and progression can sometimes be lacking in a class setting. Practice is often tailored for the group or the teacher goes off on some tangent for a month. Then, when a test rolls around you get something like, "what is ikkyo?"
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Old 06-25-2002, 11:16 AM   #9
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AIkido is about connection WITH a person and cannot be learned in isolation, nor really with just one partner.
As for tapes versus living teacher: when a video tape can FEEL what I am doing and correct it then I will say it does the job my instructors do every time I'm on the mat.
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Old 07-02-2002, 11:39 PM   #10
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This is what you do, study hard, then pile up all the material, put it on a suitcase, go to a dojo and ask for a shodan test, after you see you can't do even a single technnique in a proper manner, forget about the videos for a while, and sign up for the next day.
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