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Old 12-07-2000, 09:53 AM   #26
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Old 12-07-2000, 11:35 AM   #27
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Actually, I believe most, if not all, of aikido techniques were derieved primarily from an older Japanese martial art (a "koryu"), Daito ryu jujutsu, not from the "samurai battlefields."

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Old 12-07-2000, 01:04 PM   #28
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Battlefield Aikido

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P.S. and yes, those techniques would apply when using a real katana. As someone said on this board before, this martial art was developed from the samurai battlefields, not on the street.
I'm still learning about the way of the samurai, but Aikido was clearly developed from that.
It might be more accurate to say that Daito ryu Aiki-jitsu was created from battlefield techniques. Although Aikido was derived from that art, Aikido itself was developed by Morihei Ueshiba in a dojo.

While Aikido uses the motions of ken-jitsu (riai according to Lowry), I believe Aiki-jitsu technique was actually devised for a person who either broke or lost their weapon on the battlefield.

Just a few points to ponder.

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Old 12-07-2000, 03:58 PM   #29
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Ok, another pet peave here.
Just because a weapon is wooden, does not mean it is not a real weapon.
Is a knife or katana sharper than a wooden tano or bokken, yes. All four can kill, weilded corectly, or even poorly when luck is right. As for jo staff, a good person with the jo can break a steel weapon. Yes, it depends on a lot of factors, but don't assume wood is not a "real" weapon.
Ok, enough said.

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Old 12-08-2000, 01:27 PM   #30
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Guys, In response to the post about the levels of response that can be executed via aikido (right at the top of the 2nd page) :

There is an old samurai adage to avoid fights, but if you must fight, cause pain before you injure, injure before you maim, and maim before you kill.

Very relevant.


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