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Old 07-09-2005, 12:01 AM   #1
Lorien Lowe
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subletting the dojo

Heya-
appologies if this isn't in the right forum.
Does anyone out there sublet their dojo to other groups? If so, what kind of arrangements do you make?

Off the top of my head, the things I'm worried about are insurance, deposits, and contracts.

Any advice or experience with these or with any facets of subletting would be appreciated.
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:14 AM   #2
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Re: subletting the dojo

If you sublet to a different martial art, you may run into some problems. When our group was in another Dojo, the owner would often pull people who were looking into Aikido into his martial art. Often we would never even know these people had come by.

Just something to think about!
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:42 PM   #3
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Re: subletting the dojo

Thanks - I hadn't thought of that.
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:50 PM   #4
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Re: subletting the dojo

Quote:
Johnny Couch wrote:
If you sublet to a different martial art, you may run into some problems. When our group was in another Dojo, the owner would often pull people who were looking into Aikido into his martial art. Often we would never even know these people had come by.

Just something to think about!
Of course, the Aikido dojo may well pull in students who come in to see the other art's classes. Everybody trains in the art that they prefer and things balance out in the long run. I've never seen a major problem with it, and it's common practice in Japan.

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Chris

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Old 07-09-2005, 10:47 PM   #5
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Re: subletting the dojo

Chris, you weren't in the dojo we were in. It should work that way I agree, but even before my current teacher came to the other dojo, other martial arts teachers were having the same problem.
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Old 07-10-2005, 02:51 AM   #6
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Re: subletting the dojo

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Chris, you weren't in the dojo we were in. It should work that way I agree, but even before my current teacher came to the other dojo, other martial arts teachers were having the same problem.
A lot of martial arts teachers are sensitive about issues of "poaching", but my experience has been that resisting what is actually a natural selection process is what causes the most problems in the long run.

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Chris

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Old 07-10-2005, 07:47 AM   #7
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Re: subletting the dojo

We subletted for a while. We had a women who taught Authentic Movement and a man who taught Kung Fu. They each had their own insurance and it helped us pay the rent.

Mir
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:00 AM   #8
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Re: subletting the dojo

what about the problem of mat damage or if you have other equipment ect some other arts who have younger students may not pay as much respect to them as your club does, you might need to draw some form of contract up to cover each party
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Old 07-10-2005, 05:09 PM   #9
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Re: subletting the dojo

Mary, what was your experience like? Why did you stop subletting?
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:58 PM   #10
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Re: subletting the dojo

It worked out well. Both people were very responsible. They stopped subletting becuase they moved to other areas.

We would not sublet now becasue our dojo is at our house and we don't really need to..
whoops it is really....me.
Mary
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