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05-10-2011, 09:25 AM
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Anyone for an argument?
Hi folks, did you know that today is international monty python's day? A day for siiliness?
So I propose an argument. I propose that O'Sensei was perfect!
Do you want to argue about it? If so would this be a five minute argument or the full half hour?
Regards.G.
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05-10-2011, 09:27 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Graham Christian wrote:
I propose that O'Sensei was perfect!
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Citation please.
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05-10-2011, 09:45 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Citation please.
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Demetrio. It is written in the secret documents of the monster raving loony party of which I am a member and only a chosen few had had the privalige of seeing it.
The party is a religious order from japan called yodaism run by a Master de-gucci.
I met O'Sensei once on his way to Manchuria where he was on a secret mission to buy a parrot.
Regards.G.
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05-10-2011, 09:49 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Graham Christian wrote:
I met O'Sensei once on his way to Manchuria where he was on a secret mission to buy a parrot.
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A Norwegian Blue parrot by any chance?
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Success is having what you want. Happiness is wanting what you have.
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05-10-2011, 09:52 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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A Norwegian Blue parrot by any chance?
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Aha, you were there too. Thought I recognised you. He was also there to learn from their ministry of funny walks. Good for posture.
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05-10-2011, 10:01 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
back to the original argument...... He could not be deemed perfect as he had no training in the most deadly and effective martial art of them all Llap Gogh!
http://www.llapgoch.org.uk/
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Success is having what you want. Happiness is wanting what you have.
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05-10-2011, 10:03 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Demetrio Cereijo wrote:
Citation please.
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Not sure if you know monty python. Here is a sample:
http://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y
G.
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05-10-2011, 10:05 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
Graham,
I believe you are making things up or, alternatively the party you're member is totally fake and they are misguiding you, because:
Everybody knows the religious order from japan is not yodaism but judaism: Proof here: http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm
The O'Sensei you met was not the aikido founder but a guy from Cork who was also in Deguchi company
O Sensei's (the japanese guy) mission in Manchuria was not about finding a parrot. His purpose was finding carrots to feed the bunnies.
BTW, you lack chi.
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05-10-2011, 10:07 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Mark Freeman wrote:
back to the original argument...... He could not be deemed perfect as he had no training in the most deadly and effective martial art of them all Llap Gogh!
http://www.llapgoch.org.uk/
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Very good. However I can't argue with you any more as you didn't pay!
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05-10-2011, 10:51 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Demetrio Cereijo wrote:
Graham,
I believe you are making things up or, alternatively the party you're member is totally fake and they are misguiding you, because:
Everybody knows the religious order from japan is not yodaism but judaism: Proof here: http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm
The O'Sensei you met was not the aikido founder but a guy from Cork who was also in Deguchi company
O Sensei's (the japanese guy) mission in Manchuria was not about finding a parrot. His purpose was finding carrots to feed the bunnies.
BTW, you lack chi.
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Not at all.
http://youtu.be/Kkho_TJTC_0
And here's the offshoot:
http://youtu.be/31FFTx6AKmU
He was indeed buying a parrot I have evidence and he was arrested because he got into a fight because someone tried to sell him a dead one.
http://youtu.be/npjOSLCR2hE PROOF.
As far as carrots go wrong again, it is spam:
http://youtu.be/anwy2MPT5RE Proof.
I suggest you research more before coming out with such rediculous comments.
Regards.G.
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05-10-2011, 11:22 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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I suggest you research more before coming out with such rediculous comments.
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WHAT!!!
You are hereby charged that you did on diverse dates commit heresy against the Real Aikido (TM).
Confess or you'll taste the rack!
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05-10-2011, 11:39 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
Hmmm interesting food for thought, and though perhaps a bit thin, I couldn't eat another bite!
(oh what the hell)
Mmmmm! Minty!
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05-10-2011, 11:50 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Very good. However I can't argue with you any more as you didn't pay!
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Yes I did!
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05-10-2011, 11:55 AM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Demetrio Cereijo wrote:
WHAT!!!
You are hereby charged that you did on diverse dates commit heresy against the Real Aikido (TM).
Confess or you'll taste the rack!
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Oh no! I didn't expect the spanish inquisition. I confess!!!
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05-10-2011, 12:03 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Oh no! I didn't expect the spanish inquisition. I confess!!!
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No one does. Always look on the bright side of life. (whistles a bit)
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05-10-2011, 12:07 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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No one does. Always look on the bright side of life. (whistles a bit)
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Cheers Matthew. That was quite scary. I'll take your advice and go for some fresh air and a funny walk.
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05-10-2011, 12:15 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Graham Christian wrote:
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The party is a religious order from japan called yodaism run by a Master de-gucci.
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Ah, Master De Gucci. I know him, of course. I met him time ago, whe he was instructing me in Italy, since I am sure you know he is a renowed Italian 12th Don.
Actually it's him who put into my silly mind all those preposterous ideas about Aikido being barely usable against groups of folks randoring me with baseball bats.
But gee, he was persuasive!
Since then I have never been the same again, and I started entertaining excruciating doubts about the efficacy of my aikido.
Yet Matser De Gucci reassured me: "Doubt you not. Were you to doubt you not, Aikido yours much better it will be. Be formless and empty you yourself!"
He then said that if I want to reach the true Aikido, I must first pursue enlightenment, which they normally help guys attain by chasing them into dark alleys for excellent public randori demonstrations of their dojo's exquisitely and quintessentially pure Ki-style Aikido. Gratis!
I'm gonna see whether I can find a youtube video of their dojo, and of what they mean when they start their lessons reciting the honourable mantra: "the true Aikido is not the true Aikido. The true Aikido is nameless. Luke, use the Force, use the Force!" (I think he doesn't care whether the Dark Side of it or the bright one - or at any rate he mysteriously didn't mention anything on this momentous account)
Last edited by Alberto_Italiano : 05-10-2011 at 12:27 PM.
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05-10-2011, 12:23 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Cheers Matthew. That was quite scary. I'll take your advice and go for some fresh air and a funny walk.
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I hear it's good for the posture, but do you see now the violence inherent in the system? On your walk, mind those armed with fresh fruit!!!
p.s. I recommend shooting him and then eating the banana to disarm him!
...oops! Gave away the ancient technique!
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05-10-2011, 12:29 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Alberto Italiano wrote:
Ah, Master De Gucci. I know him, of course. I met his time ago, whe he was instructing me in Italy, since I am sure you know he is a renowed Italian 12th Don.
Actually it's him who put into my silly mind all those preposterous ideas about Aikido being barely usable against groups of folks randoring me with baseball bats.
But gee, he was persuasive!
Since then I have never been the same again, and I started entertaining excruciating doubts about the efficacy of my aikido.
Yet Matser De Gucci reassured me: "Doubt you not. Were you to doubt you not, Aikido yours much better it will be. Be formless and empty you yourself!"
He then said that if I want to reach the true Aikido, I must first pursue enlightenment, which they normally help guys attain by chasing them into dark alleys for excellent public randori demonstrations of their dojo's exquisitely and quintessentially pure Ki-style Aikido. Gratis!
I'm gonna see whether I can find a youtube video of their dojo, and of what they mean when they start their lessons reciting the honourable mantra: "the true Aikido is not the true Aikido. The true Aikido is nameless. Luke, use the Force, use the Force!" (I think he doesn't care whether the Dark Side of it or the bright one - or at any rate he mysteriously didn't mention anything on this momentous account)
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Look no further Alberto. I have the video here. Part way through you can see some training.
http://youtu.be/jNBNqUdqm1E
That's me in the hat.
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05-10-2011, 12:49 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
Graham, you look fabulous with that dogi! I want one too! Where have you found it? I am sure my Sensei would be quite impressed when he sees me stepping on the dojo in it!
And I have even better news: I found a video with Master Nick De Gucci! yes!
You will instantly recognize the dojo by the incense they let diffuse in order to make the atmosphere more Ki-oriented. And you will certainly recognize all the most exquisite Judo jargon that is mandatory once there!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxKiK-SeBhE
You can tell him because he is the one illustrating the tanto technique; it's true that he grew slow and a bit sluggish and grumpier over time, but well, you can't be a 12th Don and still be as fast as when you were in your 20ies.
However, of course, that's immaterial, because, needless to say, his technique was for demonstration purposes only.
Last edited by Alberto_Italiano : 05-10-2011 at 12:54 PM.
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05-10-2011, 12:51 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
On a side note, I've never met Master De Gucci, but my aunt loves his handbags! They make excellent Aikido weapons, and, I hear, were involved in some major battles (neither prewar, nor postwar) as demonstrated here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMqSmiC_xHg
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05-10-2011, 01:03 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Alberto Italiano wrote:
Ah, Master De Gucci. I know him, of course. I met him time ago, whe he was instructing me in Italy, since I am sure you know he is a renowed Italian 12th Don.
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You mean the Master De Gucci from Milano or the Master De Gucci from Napoli?
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05-10-2011, 01:11 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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On a side note, I've never met Master De Gucci, but my aunt loves his handbags! They make excellent Aikido weapons, and, I hear, were involved in some major battles (neither prewar, nor postwar) as demonstrated here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMqSmiC_xHg
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Matthew.
Just watched the fruit sketch, hadn't seen that one. 16 ton weight underside, ouch! I must agree though, handbags for multiple attacks.
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05-10-2011, 01:13 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
Nobody expects the Aiki Inquisition.
Our main weapons are ki and extension.
Wait....unless they are posture and intent.
Yes our weapons are ki and intent and posturing
(confers)
No ... Our weapons are aikijo and aikiken.
(adjusts hakama)
Nobody expects the Aiki Inquisition.
Our main weapons are...
Oh Hell who wants to go for a beer?
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05-10-2011, 01:15 PM
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Re: Anyone for an argument?
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Alberto Italiano wrote:
Graham, you look fabulous with that dogi! I want one too! Where have you found it? I am sure my Sensei would be quite impressed when he sees me stepping on the dojo in it!
And I have even better news: I found a video with Master Nick De Gucci! yes!
You will instantly recognize the dojo by the incense they let diffuse in order to make the atmosphere more Ki-oriented. And you will certainly recognize all the most exquisite Judo jargon that is mandatory once there!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxKiK-SeBhE
You can tell him because he is the one illustrating the tanto technique; it's true that he grew slow and a bit sluggish and grumpier over time, but well, you can't be a 12th Don and still be as fast as when you were in your 20ies.
However, of course, that's immaterial, because, needless to say, his technique was for demonstration purposes only.
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Ooh, ouch! Hardly monty python but point taken.
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