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04-17-2007, 07:39 AM
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Dojo: Griffith Aikido Yuishinkai
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How many Shihans?
Can anyone tell me how many shihans where recognised by the aikikai at the time of O'sensei's passing?
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04-17-2007, 08:47 AM
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Dojo: Aikido Sangenkai
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Aran Bright wrote:
Can anyone tell me how many shihans where recognised by the aikikai at the time of O'sensei's passing?
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That's easy - zero.
Best,
Chris
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04-17-2007, 01:34 PM
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Christopher Li wrote:
That's easy - zero.
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Chris
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What about Tohei? Not a rhetorical question here...
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04-17-2007, 03:11 PM
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Brian Dewey wrote:
What about Tohei? Not a rhetorical question here...
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There was no official "shihan" certification until fairly recently. Normal practice in Japan was (and more or less still is) that anybody 6th dan and up would be called "shihan", so the answer to the question "officially recognized as shihan" would be "zero".
Best,
Chris
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04-17-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Christopher Li wrote:
There was no official "shihan" certification until fairly recently. Normal practice in Japan was (and more or less still is) that anybody 6th dan and up would be called "shihan", so the answer to the question "officially recognized as shihan" would be "zero".
Best,
Chris
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Wasn't Tohei named "shihan bucho" of Hombu in 1956? Wouldn't that make him officially a shihan?
R
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04-17-2007, 07:47 PM
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Raul Rodrigo wrote:
Wasn't Tohei named "shihan bucho" of Hombu in 1956? Wouldn't that make him officially a shihan?
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No, that would make him "head of the department" ("bucho") for "instructors" ("shihan").
"Shihan" is just another word for "instructor", and there were never any "official" designations until, as I said before, fairly recently. So far as I know, most Japanese don't even realize that there are "official" designations now - Japanese instructors have been called "shihan" for years without the "official certification" that foreigners are required to receive.
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Chris
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04-22-2007, 06:43 AM
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Dojo: Griffith Aikido Yuishinkai
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Christopher Li wrote:
That's easy - zero.
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Chris
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Thank you, much appreciated, perhaps a revised question would be how many 6th dan and above where there at the time of O'sensei's passing.
Aran
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04-22-2007, 07:53 AM
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Re: How many Shihans?
When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:
".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"
Mike
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."
-Martin Luther King Jr
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04-22-2007, 10:26 AM
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Mike Haft wrote:
When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:
".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"
Mike
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One, but only if the lightbulb makes the first move
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Mark
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Success is having what you want. Happiness is wanting what you have.
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04-22-2007, 11:14 AM
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Mike Haft wrote:
".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"
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Hmmm... Tenkan on top of a ladder... Interesting.
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04-23-2007, 04:59 AM
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Dojo: Griffith Aikido Yuishinkai
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Re: How many Shihans?
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Mike Haft wrote:
When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:
".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"
Mike
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Yeah I thought of making that joke...
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