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03-24-2010, 06:58 AM
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Dojo: Shinkikan
Location: Houston
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Dojo managment software
What 3 features would/do you use most in a dojo management program, eg. (student fees, calendar, schedule, student profile)?
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03-24-2010, 08:41 AM
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Join Date: May 2009
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Re: Dojo managment software
Attendance. And a simple PDA version of the software or client just for the attendance, so you can mark attendance on the PDA and then upload/synchronize the files to the main program.
Are you developing the software?
Karo
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03-24-2010, 08:57 AM
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Dojo: Shinkikan
Location: Houston
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Re: Dojo managment software
Yes, I am developing some software but it will be web based. I'm looking to get ideas on the most functional features that would be used as well as how popular something like this might be. Just looking to make life easier :-)
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03-24-2010, 09:17 AM
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Dojo: Tobu Chiku Aikikai
Location: Brussels
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: Dojo managment software
- online shopping cart to buy dojo tools like tanto, jo, bokken
- being able to pay subscription fees via paypal
- profiles of members
- avatars on profiles
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03-24-2010, 09:42 AM
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Dojo: Shinkikan
Location: Houston
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Re: Dojo managment software
Thank you for your suggestions, Dirk!
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03-24-2010, 10:44 AM
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Location: ATL
Join Date: Jul 2000
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Re: Dojo managment software
Unless you're just looking to code something, check out www.martialmanagement.com.
It does most of what has been mentioned already (profile, dojo directory, announcements, calendar, time tracking, etc), is constantly being improved/refined and the developer is very open to suggestions. oh and it's free. At some point he may charge for some features, but these will be extensions to the core functionality.
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03-24-2010, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: Dojo managment software
Hmm... I've written software to do a lot of these individual things over the years. Perhaps I should combine them to make some dojo management software. I've needed a new coding project for a while now.
Off the top of my head, I'd say something that incorporates an eCommerce solution (including payment of dues), basic CMS, calendar, community forum, gallery software... pretty much how AikiWeb is set up, to be honest.
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03-24-2010, 01:50 PM
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Location: Indiana
Join Date: May 2006
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Re: Dojo managment software
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Jason Casteel wrote:
Unless you're just looking to code something, check out www.martialmanagement.com.
It does most of what has been mentioned already (profile, dojo directory, announcements, calendar, time tracking, etc), is constantly being improved/refined and the developer is very open to suggestions. oh and it's free. At some point he may charge for some features, but these will be extensions to the core functionality.
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WOT ( https://www.mywot.com/) lists that url as a spammer.
I'm in the process of designing some software for gyms. It will support web/mac/pc/iphone/android (Web/mac/iphone first). It's in early stages however.
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- Don
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" - Albert Einstein
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03-24-2010, 03:28 PM
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Dojo: Aikido South
Location: Johnson City, TN
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: Dojo managment software
Money collection, money collection, and...money collection. Automated billing would be my top, followed dojo calendar and communication tool.
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03-24-2010, 11:39 PM
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Dojo: West Wind Dojo Santa Monica California
Location: Malibu, California
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: Dojo managment software
I have a Filemaker Pro based app I wrote that works just fine and if you want to do a web based management app I suggest a CMS platform like Joomla. It's free and relatively easy to learn and use and if you like to create... code... and stuff.... allot of fun.
William Hazen
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03-25-2010, 12:15 AM
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Dojo: San Diego Jiai Aikido
Location: San Diego
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: Dojo managment software
If you're thinking of making something for yourself, go for it. But if you pick up a few martial arts magazines you'll find them filled with ads for applications/services like this.
You may also find that a higher number of dojos than you would expect don't have internet service.
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03-25-2010, 02:03 AM
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Dojo: Tobu Chiku Aikikai
Location: Brussels
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Re: Dojo managment software
Did I mention Avatars yet?
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03-25-2010, 05:43 AM
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Location: ATL
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Re: Dojo managment software
Quote:
Don Magee wrote:
WOT ( https://www.mywot.com/) lists that url as a spammer.
I'm in the process of designing some software for gyms. It will support web/mac/pc/iphone/android (Web/mac/iphone first). It's in early stages however.
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It's wrong and if you look at the two sources/honeypots, one of them (arcade) you can't even contact anymore and the other is in Germany. There is NO unsolicited email coming from that domain. The domain isn't listed on ANY of the commonly used, corporate, verifiable blacklist services. WOT is NOT one of those...
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03-25-2010, 06:36 AM
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Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Dojo managment software
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Jeff Sodeman wrote:
You may also find that a higher number of dojos than you would expect don't have internet service.
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Internet service? What's that?
Our dojo has a website, but it's for informational purposes. We're simply not large enough to need shopping carts or any other e-commerce paraphernalia. We're also not large enough to need specialized apps to track attendance, dues payments, testing, accounting/bookkeeping, etc. General purpose apps such as Excel and Quickbooks do that well enough for a dojo our size.
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03-25-2010, 06:47 AM
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Location: ATL
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Re: Dojo managment software
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Jeff Sodeman wrote:
You may also find that a higher number of dojos than you would expect don't have internet service.
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For a web based service like martialmanagement.com, dojos don't need internet service. Students and instructors access it on their own time and the dojo itself doesn't need to be able to access the site directly for that.
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03-29-2010, 09:42 AM
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Dojo: Shinkikan
Location: Houston
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Re: Dojo managment software
Wonderful discussion here. Looks like accessibility seems to be on the mind. I tend to agree with the idea that internet access might be a valid obstacle to work on. I think that is best tackled by having some sort of workflow. As mentioned, the size of the dojo would probably determine the need for something like this.
Another aspect I've been thinking about is the social aspect. The idea behind social software is to enable people to interact online in as much the same way as they do offline. I think dojo management software should offer something that let's people share and discuss much in the same way they do after a seminar, for example. This has the benefit of letting a dojo's culture extend itself beyond what it can physically reach.
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03-29-2010, 09:54 AM
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Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
Location: Santa Cruz
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: Dojo managment software
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William Hazen wrote:
I have a Filemaker Pro based app I wrote that works just fine and if you want to do a web based management app I suggest a CMS platform like Joomla. It's free and relatively easy to learn and use and if you like to create... code... and stuff.... allot of fun.
William Hazen
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The Filemaker Pro is the best program that I've used. It works for an expanding school population, can segregate billing and stats for dojo management tasks, and is pretty user friendly. I'd never considered
writing my own program, that's beyond my pail, as it were.
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Jennifer Paige Smith
Confluence Aikido Systems
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03-29-2010, 11:20 AM
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Dojo: West Wind Dojo Santa Monica California
Location: Malibu, California
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Re: Dojo managment software
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Jennifer Smith wrote:
The Filemaker Pro is the best program that I've used. It works for an expanding school population, can segregate billing and stats for dojo management tasks, and is pretty user friendly. I'd never considered
writing my own program, that's beyond my pail, as it were.
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Cool Beans Jenn... You can also make Filemaker Pro data web accessible too.... and for those who would like students to be able to pay online you can plug in a safe and secure Paypal account for your Dojo.
Anyone who is good with a computer can use Filemaker Pro after a few hours of instruction. It's very user friendly.
Thanks for sharing, and I hope you're enjoying the surf today.
William Hazen
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06-18-2010, 02:51 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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Re: Dojo managment software
I've created The Dojo Manager ( http://thedojomanager.com), for small and medium dojos. It's still in beta, so it's free, but even when it's out of beta the fee will be very small, to allow even small schools to be able to afford it.
It's all online, so no software to install and you can use it from any Internet connection.
Dan
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06-22-2010, 11:37 AM
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Dojo: Ima Juku
Location: Amersfoort
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Dojo managment software
Quote:
Dan Williams wrote:
I've created The Dojo Manager ( http://thedojomanager.com), for small and medium dojos. It's still in beta, so it's free, but even when it's out of beta the fee will be very small, to allow even small schools to be able to afford it.
It's all online, so no software to install and you can use it from any Internet connection.
Dan
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Hi Dan,
I am interested but the site does not work. Can you fix this? (Uesd firefox).
Thanks,
Arjan
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06-22-2010, 01:08 PM
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Location: Boston/MA
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Re: Dojo managment software
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Arjan de Vries wrote:
Hi Dan,
I am interested but the site does not work. Can you fix this? (Uesd firefox).
Thanks,
Arjan
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Arjan,
Try taking the close paranethesis out of the URL.
...rab
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06-22-2010, 02:00 PM
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Dojo: Ima Juku
Location: Amersfoort
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 104
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Re: Dojo managment software
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Rabih Shanshiry wrote:
Arjan,
Try taking the close paranethesis out of the URL.
...rab
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That did the trirck... Stupid of me I did not check!
Thanks
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06-22-2010, 05:12 PM
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Dojo: Brisbane Aikido Republic
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: Dojo managment software
Slightly OT
I have seen a few setups around the traps, a nice half way point is a book for attendance and collect fees using paypal (its easy to setup). Going to dojo management software means a computer, possibly internet connection, maintaing the computer, backup strategies and probably you still need someone to drive it turn it on/off before and after class. Its all a question of scale I think if the dojo is full time with lots of people coming through the door its probably helpful, but i suspect for the vast majority of dojo its a cool idea but maybe a time sink that distracts from training
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06-22-2010, 05:51 PM
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Dojo: Aiki Shoshinkan, Aiki Kenkyukai
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Re: Dojo managment software
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Rabih Shanshiry wrote:
Arjan,
Try taking the close paranethesis out of the URL.
...rab
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Let me guess, IT Support.
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Draw strength from stillness. Learn to act without acting. And never underestimate a samurai cat.
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06-24-2010, 08:17 AM
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Dojo: Capitol City Aikido Club
Location: Montgomery
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 33
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Re: Dojo managment software
I have always thought it would be good to have a swipe card to track attendance. I am a school principal and swipe cards are great. The alternative is a key pad to enter a "student" number.
I think it would also be good to have seminar information after students train away.
I would love to see what you develop when you are done.
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