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Old 12-23-2009, 05:19 PM   #1
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Music While Training - Offensive?

What dojos play music while training and which don't and why? Does music help or is it offensive when it comes to training?

If you do play music what type and if you don't and are considering it what music would you play?
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:32 PM   #2
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We never play music during practice. Yet, I doubt they would be against it. O' sensei likened Aikido to music himself. Probably because he was a Shin Tao priest. They have a belief that the universe was started with a noise...god old "and God spoke" concept I guess.

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Old 12-23-2009, 05:50 PM   #3
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no music in our dojo. Sensei prefers silence.

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Old 12-23-2009, 06:56 PM   #4
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No music except whatever's been playing in my head.

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Old 12-23-2009, 07:25 PM   #5
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Re: Music While Training - Offensive?

We had Ginny Whitelaw Sensei here for a seminar a year or so ago and she played music during part of the training. Specifically, she played "In The Mood" while we repeatedly did katate kosa dori kokyunage. It was an interesting few minutes and I enjoyed it, but I don't think I would like to routinely train to Big Band music.

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Old 12-23-2009, 07:28 PM   #6
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Very occasionally we have taiko playing. It tends to make everyone more focused.
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:35 PM   #7
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I have never been in a dojo that played music to practice by.
I think in a dojo setting it would be too distracting.
I have a mp3 player with a speaker in it.
When practicing at home I will clip it on my collar and play it.
I currently have Bach Cello Suite #1 on it.



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Old 12-23-2009, 07:56 PM   #8
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Re: Music While Training - Offensive?

You mean the sound of bodies hitting the mat and ukes taping isn't music?

I think it would be way too distracting. Especially if the rhythm of the music was out of sync with the movements we are working on. We just had a class last week in total silence. Even Sensei didn't speak as she demonstrated. We watched and then tried to copy her. it was one of the neatest experiences.

lol Sensei had laryngitis so she was unable to talk. Since she was unable to talk we all just naturally followed her lead and no one spoke much. It had such an effect it even carried over to the second class which was taught my our weapons teacher, who spoke very well indeed.
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:30 PM   #9
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Sometimes during BJJ the crossfit group will put on music. It gets real uncomfortable depending on who's iPod it is.

"Let's get it onnnnnn....ohhh yea!"

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Old 12-23-2009, 09:57 PM   #10
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I wouldn't like it at all. In fact, I don't like budo dvd/videos with music in the background...even if it is the typical taiko/asian type music. Maybe for an intro/outro but not during the meat of the video. Oh, and I don't like it during demonstrations either. But that's just me, I'm not gonna start a "Down with music during aikido demos and videos" Facebook group or anything crazily militant like that!

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Old 12-23-2009, 10:16 PM   #11
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Thank God no one is starting a Facebook group against dojo music (lol).

We always have soft, Asian music as a backdrop to our practices. The students really feel that it creates focus and set the mood. The times when we practiced without, the students noticed a difference, and requested that it be turned on.

The cd that we created is also slightly under 1 hour long - so when the music runs out, it's a subtle reminded to wrap things up.

How can it be "A lot like dancing" without music??

To each their own.

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Old 12-23-2009, 11:32 PM   #12
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Re: Music While Training - Offensive?

My sensei decided to play some music during class a few years ago. I don't think it was on for 2 minutes and decided he was done with it. He has never played music since then so I don't have any idea if it would help or hinder training.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:21 AM   #13
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Re: Music While Training - Offensive?

We have music for parts of some classes. Maybe 1 in 4 classes? Sometimes quiet Japanese flute, and sometimes more lively, mostly instrumental/electronic music, still softly. I really enjoy it. It kind of gets me "flowing" instead of thinking.

I think anything by Rusted Root would be great dojo music.

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Old 12-24-2009, 01:06 AM   #14
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We have music for parts of some classes. Maybe 1 in 4 classes? Sometimes quiet Japanese flute, and sometimes more lively, mostly instrumental/electronic music, still softly. I really enjoy it. It kind of gets me "flowing" instead of thinking.

I think anything by Rusted Root would be great dojo music.
That would be nice. I really enjoy what I've heard of them. I think music in class could be great, but I can see how it might be great for some and not for others since taste in music is so subjective. I've got a buddy who would have a seriously hard time enjoying himself if Rusted Root were playing, while I could enjoy just about anything. It think it would be interesting to observe the different effects of different music though. Perhaps start out with some Death followed by Simon and Garfunkle followed by Dick Dale and so on?

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Old 12-24-2009, 06:18 AM   #15
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... Perhaps start out with some Death followed by Simon and Garfunkle followed by Dick Dale and so on?
That is probably why most places don't The music would also tend to set the pace of the class, though. I find myself going naturally to the rhythm of the music whenever I go running with my iPod, at least.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:43 AM   #16
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Given Sensei's usual taste in music when we're working around the dojo or gardens, I'd really really really rather not.
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:25 AM   #17
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Sometimes during BJJ the crossfit group will put on music. It gets real uncomfortable depending on who's iPod it is.

"Let's get it onnnnnn....ohhh yea!"

"Ummm, can you get off of me, something doesn't feel right..."
Barry White...a big no, no in a BJJ dojo. If you made eye contact at the wrong time...it could be a bad thing.

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Old 12-24-2009, 09:22 AM   #18
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"Let's get it onnnnnn....ohhh yea!"
I think that's Marvin Gaye, not Barry White.

If you can listen to Marvin Gaye and not think about sex, you don't have gonads.
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:29 AM   #19
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Re: Music While Training - Offensive?

Sensei sometimes plays a cd of Kitaro during training, but not always. How do you say in english: "la musique adoucit les moeurs"? It helps us remain calm and focused.
Of course, not every music is appropriate for a martial arts class. Still, I remember, when I was practising Karate, our school had to look for another location, and in the meantime, we found refuge in a health club. The main problem was that we could hear the music from the weight lifting room. Most of the students complained about it, but I learned to ignore the music and concentrate on my training. Wich means that, in fact, the music helped me concentrate more.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:57 AM   #20
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Kevin, you MUST have seen the motivational poster with Wanderlai Silva! I had that framed and matted for a gift to my BJJ instructor son. I just wish I'd thought of enclosing a Barry White or Marvin Gaye CD in the package.

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Old 12-24-2009, 12:42 PM   #21
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Re: Music While Training - Offensive?

In keeping with the current economic climate, the sports centre where we practise on a Sunday has converted the adjoining dojo into an aerobics studio - lot more people pay for aerobics than aikido. We both start at 10.30am, but the aerobics class finishes at 11.20am.

When we're sitting for the formal rei at the start of class, the sprung wood floor starts bouncing with the bass, and as we start our warm-ups, the instructor next door is bellowing "Come on!" "3, 2, 1!" and similar.

But what amazes me is that some time between 11.30 and 12.00, I will suddenly realise the aerobics class is over - as I start to concentrate more and more deeply on what I'm doing, the music just vanishes.
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:17 PM   #22
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I think that's Marvin Gaye, not Barry White.

If you can listen to Marvin Gaye and not think about sex, you don't have gonads.
Maybe that song (Let's Get it On), but Mercy Me and What's Going On don't exactly put me in the mood.

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Old 12-24-2009, 03:06 PM   #23
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I know he was called a "mystic", and he's been known to have trained clergymen. And he wore a white hakama,(all shrine workers did) I don't know if anything ever comes out and says he is a priest I'm also having trouble finding any text that comes out and says the leaders of the Shinto were priests. But if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....
Then he would be a duck not a priest.

I not familiar with Aikido duck tai sabaki.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j7yhHyrf0Q
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If they fly upside down, they quack up.

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Old 12-24-2009, 03:36 PM   #24
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I like music when training. I have played Japanese style music as well as simply turning on the radio.

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Old 12-24-2009, 05:50 PM   #25
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Then he would be a duck not a priest.

I not familiar with Aikido duck tai sabaki.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j7yhHyrf0Q
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If they fly upside down, they quack up.

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