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Old 11-21-2002, 02:06 PM   #76
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Join Date: Mar 2002
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My questions above were more aimed at whether Ron is willing to change his thoughts about aikido's training methods or if he's on a one-track mission to "prove" aikido's training methods wrong
There is nothing I would love more than to be proved wrong. The more I know the better, I think. However, I am not learning how to do aikido by attending an aikido class and practicing in a set, rigid, repetitive way. I have tried to make the stuff work against resisting opponents, and I can't get it to.

I haven't been doing aikido very long, but surely I should be able to do something.

Another thing that makes me doubt (as I have mentioned ad nauseum) is the attitude of the higher grades. They do not seem willing or able to demonstrate techniques against what I would call realistic attacks. If the best aikido people I have seen don't look like they can fight too well, then I will inevitably doubt the aikido training method they employ. (note I do not doubt that the techniques could be effective.
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Old 11-22-2002, 12:44 PM   #77
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Location: Florida Gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,888
paul watt (paw) wrote:
Lynn,Did you read the thread? Because....Other people made the same statements you just did and ... the thread is still ongoing.Regards, Paul
Nope, haven't had time to go read it. Sounds like it might be good though. Thanks for the heads up.

Until again,


Lynn Seiser PhD
Yondan Aikido & FMA/JKD
We do not rise to the level of our expectations, but fall to the level of our training. Train well. KWATZ!
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Old 11-22-2002, 01:22 PM   #78
Dojo: Baltimore Aikido
Location: Baltimore
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So, Ron, I'm beginning to get the feeling that you are repeating yourself. There's nothing wrong with that, but the feeling usually indicates that there is some breakdown of communication. Maybe you feel like people on this thread haven't understood what you are asking for? Maybe something in all the responses has somehow missed the boat for you?

I honestly doubt that we will be able to offer you any demonstration you would find convincing by electronic means, since a lot of the issues you raise seem to involve the importance of physically experiencing something.

The only thing we do seem to have offered, electronically, is the experience of a number of members who haveean looking for. I don't mean by that any disrespect either for you or for AiKiDo. You have very specific needs and interests, and if you had come to me before you'd tried AiKiDo and asked me which martial arts might interest you, AiKiDo would not have come to mind.

Yours in Aiki
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Old 11-24-2002, 06:42 PM   #79
gregg herbert
Dojo: weber state martial arts club
Location: ogden utah
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 2
were i practice atemi is given to the nage with a tap or harmless slap to the nage for bad techniqe and also given to the uke , so the uke can see the possible atemis.randori also helps with awarness of possible threats. I think you need to find a dojo that likes to but heads.....
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Old 11-25-2002, 11:03 AM   #80
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Location: St. Louis
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Mr. Marshall,

As you begin to learn technique your practice and attacks should be slow and formal. If for no other reason than to insure that you have a practice partner at your next class. If you have been practicing a technique for a while and your sempai or sensei is not pushing you for more speed and to meet the vagaries of attack inherent with working with several partners then I would agree it's time to move to another dojo. Blending with differences is essence of the art.

"If the bird will not sing...wait."
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