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Old 08-07-2004, 03:16 PM   #51
Charles Hill
Dojo: Numazu Aikikai/Aikikai Honbu Dojo
Location: Three Lakes WI/ Mishima Japan
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Re: Poll: Do you think people should receive ranking in aikido for reasons outside of

James Finley wrote:
Of course, I realize that the Dalai Lama has likely never trained in Aikido, so it is just a hypothetical question.
I once taught an Aikido class attended by the Dalai Lama's youngest brother (himself a recognized tulku) and his son, the Dalai Lama's nephew. At a party after the class, I asked him what he thought of the class and of Aikido. He said, "I think it's terrible." Then seeing the shocked look on my face, he said, "Just kidding." (If you read the Dalai Lama's biography, he's the one who was always playing practical jokes on people and getting in trouble as a kid.) He did say seriously that he wondered if the slapping of the mat during ukemi (which is generally done harder than necessary) is ego-building rather than ego-diminishing.

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Old 08-08-2004, 03:10 AM   #52
Hanna B
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Re: Poll: Do you think people should receive ranking in aikido for reasons outside of their technical ability?

Ian Hurst wrote:
Aha, becomes clear now - you're a carrot person
I googled to find out what you meen by "carrot person"... Honestly, I don't think so. I do not see that ranks should have much to do with the motivation for training, which is why I would like to give them less emphasis, which is why I am OK with them handed out for a variety of reasons.
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Old 05-09-2005, 05:59 AM   #53
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Location: washington UK
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Re: Poll: Do you think people should receive ranking in aikido for reasons outside of their technical ability?

if someone has been working in the background , doing a lot of organising ,therefore giving up there own time when perhaps they could have been training, why shouldnt they be recognised for there input.a lot of people are never thought about who organise courses give up there time write and print out programmes licences take care of money issues but there again a rank grade or coloured belt means little it is the person that matters how he/she behaves as ssomeone has already said aikido doesnt stop when you walk off the mat it is how we live our everyday lives and applying those principles, well thats what i think any way , domo arigato.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:07 AM   #54
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Dojo: Aikido of Harvard (IL)
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Re: Poll: Do you think people should receive ranking in aikido for reasons outside of their technical ability?

NO! NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO! NO! Bad Aikidoka! Put that rank BACK where you found it and don't accept it if you haven't performed up to the expectations of a bona fide teaching committee.

Rank = passing on the merits of your performance of USAF / Hombu testing requirements for Kyu and Dan grades, as approved by your sensei and/or a recognized teaching commitee. No "warm fuzzy" ranks for "meritous contributions to fundraising and dojo maintenance" -- that sort of thing is rewarded with a plaque or an honorarium or a dinner in their honor. Shihan and upper dan grades may be based on recognition of acheivements in Aikido, but such recommendations for promotion come from the ranks above.

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Old 05-13-2005, 06:56 PM   #55
Dojo: Roppongi Yoshinkan Aikido / Roppongi, Tokyo, Japan
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Re: Poll: Do you think people should receive ranking in aikido for reasons outside of their technical ability?

Hmm...I suspect that even if there isn't an official "They helped out at x number of dojo events so they get +y points for their test" section in the "testing manual" it probably does exist within the testing committee.

A similar situation is the exact opposite, where those who are considered to be more dedicated and are going the "instructor" route may get "-y points" since expectations are higher.

I suppose this means that every test is a "case-by-case" situation and nothing should be taken for granted, included those factors which drive human decision making...

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