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06-21-2000, 12:22 PM
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Location: London, UK
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Simple one (I think): is there any difference in meaning between 'tori' and 'nage'? Is 'tori' usually used in tomiki-ryu? The reason I say this is because I noticed Chuck Clark use the term, and my sensei also uses it.
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06-21-2000, 04:29 PM
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Dojo: Jiyushinkan
Location: Monroe, Washington
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Hi Benny,
Yes, "tori" (taker) is the term used in both judo and Tomiki Aikido. With both judo and Tomiki Sensei's system in my lineage, I have used the term for my whole practice life. I also practiced Aikikai style in France and Canada for several years and could never really get used to the term "nage" (thrower).
Tori has a connotation of "taking" uke's center/spirit/initiative (all those good words...) as you blend with them. You can blend with someone without taking all that stuff (it's called dancing for one thing) but in a budo practice, you must take and keep the sente (initiative or lead).
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07-21-2000, 02:56 AM
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"Victor"
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AFAIK the term "tori" is also used in several styles of karate, too.
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If I'm not right - I'm wrong
Victro
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07-21-2000, 03:45 PM
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yes, my style of karate used that term. But Victor, you said at the beginning of your post "AFAIK"... what's that stand for?
-Nick
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07-21-2000, 04:08 PM
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Dojo: StillPoint Aikido
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As far as I know, it stands for As Far As I Know.
Bodly
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07-21-2000, 04:52 PM
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Ahh, wakarimasu.
Thanks,
-Nick
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07-21-2000, 05:53 PM
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Dojo: Aikido Martial Arts Center
Location: Blue Grass, IA
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I've seen "tori" used in older traditional aikido writings, so apparently it's more prevalent in Tomiki, but not limited to it.
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AikiTom
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07-24-2000, 02:11 AM
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"Victor"
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My turn to ask a question
Why is the term "nage" correct when describing some techniques osae-waza?
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Victro
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