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12-20-2008, 08:57 AM
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All of the Techniques in Aikido?
Hi can any one tell me which are the ALL techniques in aikido. This has been my question seance 6 years ago(i used to train but i broke my finger for the yellow belt exam-5 kyu)
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12-20-2008, 10:12 AM
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Dojo: Aikido of Suenaka-Ha in Greater Richmond
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Re: The most troubling question
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Marko Ilic wrote:
Hi can any one tell me which are the ALL techniques in aikido. This has been my question seance 6 years ago(i used to train but i broke my finger for the yellow belt exam-5 kyu)
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Are you asking for a complete list of Aikido techniques?
If so, then you will get some varied responses, since some "styles" choose to/ not to use various techniques, and some have ones that no others do.
But generally speaking.
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There are the 3 main wrist locks:
-Ikkyo
-Nikkyo
-Sankyo
And then the throws:
-Koyku-nage
-Tenchi-nage
-Kote-gaeishi
-Sayu-nage
-Kaiten-nage
And then you have some others/ variants, such as:
-Hiji-otoshi
-Sumi-otoshi
-Arm bars
-Kubi-shime(chokes)
And tons of others that i am sure i am not thinking of at the moment , or that my form of Aikido does not teach.
Just let me know if you have any other questions
rei,
morgan
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12-20-2008, 10:26 AM
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Re: The most troubling question
Thank you but i think that yonkyo and gokyo are one of the main wrist locks and i nevewr heard of Sayu-nage can you describe it
Thanks
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12-20-2008, 10:34 AM
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Dojo: VA tenshinkai
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Re: The most troubling question
Well for us we have(and keep in mind these can be done from any attack and in more than one way usually more than just omote and ura)
ikkyo
nikkyo
sankyo
yonkyo
gokyo
kotegaeshi
irimi
sayu / sokumen irimi
koshi
juji
sumiotoshi
tenchi
tenbin
kokyu
hiji
kubijime
kaiten
aikiotoshi
then ovcourse aikiken and aikijo and im probably forgetting something...so etc. etc.
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Kashima Shinden Jikishinkage ryu kenjutsu
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12-20-2008, 10:39 AM
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Re: The most troubling question
Thanks I probably know even less than that.But what about some techniques about rokyo or something.
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12-20-2008, 01:33 PM
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Dojo: Aikido of Suenaka-Ha in Greater Richmond
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Re: The most troubling question
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Marko Ilic wrote:
Thank you but i think that yonkyo and gokyo are one of the main wrist locks and i nevewr heard of Sayu-nage can you describe it
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Not in the form of Aikido i study, we dont practice either; Yonkyo doesnt work on everyone(including a very flexible young woman at my dojo). So its basically just the 3 i listed with us, unless you include Kote-gaeishi.
And sayu nage is kinda like kokyu-nage, but with the back of your arm, versus the inside; does that make sense?(and its not my favorite, haha)
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12-20-2008, 02:14 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
It makes sense but some people refer to yonkyo as Sumi otoshi i dont know why. I think yonkyo can be resisted easily if you do yoga to strech your arms.
Thanks
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12-20-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
I'm curious why someone who trained briefly six years ago would care about the answer. Is it sort of like, I don't know, a stamp-collecting thing?
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12-20-2008, 04:52 PM
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Dojo: Tsubaki Kannagara Jinja Aikidojo; Himeji Shodokan Dojo
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Re: The most troubling question
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It makes sense but some people refer to yonkyo as Sumi otoshi i dont know why. I think yonkyo can be resisted easily if you do yoga to strech your arms.
Thanks
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My understanding is that yonkyo and sumiotoshi are two different techniques. I've practiced an upward projecting yonkyo (at least, that's what I think it was called) while sumi otoshi is "corner drop," isn't it?
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12-20-2008, 05:05 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
The organisation where I train differentiate between yonkyo and sumiotoshi, also. Yonkyo seems to be more of an 'outside' technique, whereas sumiotoshi is done more from the inside (that makes sense in my head). But that might just be a quirk of our style, I don't know. I've also never seen anyone in our dojo demonstrate or even speak of jujinage, even though I've always considered it one of the 'main' techniques that everyone seems to practice.
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12-20-2008, 05:22 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
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Marko Ilic wrote:
Hi can any one tell me which are the ALL techniques in aikido.
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No. They are infinite.
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12-20-2008, 05:44 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
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My understanding is that yonkyo and sumiotoshi are two different techniques. I've practiced an upward projecting yonkyo (at least, that's what I think it was called) while sumi otoshi is "corner drop," isn't it?
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I was referring to the original question, actually -- as in, it struck me as being kind of from left field, given the source. Not a criticism, it just struck me as odd.
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12-20-2008, 06:16 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
Sayunage is known as sokumen iriminage in some dojos.
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12-20-2008, 07:03 PM
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Dojo: Tsubaki Kannagara Jinja Aikidojo; Himeji Shodokan Dojo
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Re: The most troubling question
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I was referring to the original question, actually -- as in, it struck me as being kind of from left field, given the source. Not a criticism, it just struck me as odd.
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I actually agree with you, but I'm curious why you replied to my post. I was just curious about the techniques' names.
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Gambarimashyo!
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12-20-2008, 07:22 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
If a broken finger keeps you off the mats knowing the names of the techniques is the least of your worries.
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12-20-2008, 07:39 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
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I actually agree with you, but I'm curious why you replied to my post. I was just curious about the techniques' names.
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I didn't reply to your post. I posted a comment that just happened to occur after your post.
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12-20-2008, 08:10 PM
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Dojo: Tsubaki Kannagara Jinja Aikidojo; Himeji Shodokan Dojo
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Re: The most troubling question
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I didn't reply to your post. I posted a comment that just happened to occur after your post.
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Gotcha. The quote threw me.
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12-21-2008, 12:40 AM
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Re: The most troubling question
i didnt mean something like katetori ikkyo, but kust ikkyo nikyo sankyo and so on. Thanks for all the replies
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12-21-2008, 05:48 PM
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Re: The most troubling question
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Gotcha. The quote threw me.
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Yeah, for whatever reason I always hit that stupid Quote button and then forget to erase the results. Sorry for the confusion.
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12-22-2008, 12:53 AM
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Re: The most troubling question
Are there techniques like Rokkyo,Shickyo,Hachkyo...
And how about Hijinage, Aikinage, Kote oroshi...
Thanks,
Marko
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12-22-2008, 07:09 AM
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Re: The most troubling question
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Morgan Wible wrote:
Are you asking for a complete list of Aikido techniques?
If so, then you will get some varied responses, since some "styles" choose to/ not to use various techniques, and some have ones that no others do.
But generally speaking.
:
There are the 3 main wrist locks:
-Ikkyo
-Nikkyo
-Sankyo
And then the throws:
-Koyku-nage
-Tenchi-nage
-Kote-gaeishi
-Sayu-nage
-Kaiten-nage
And then you have some others/ variants, such as:
-Hiji-otoshi
-Sumi-otoshi
-Arm bars
-Kubi-shime(chokes)
And tons of others that i am sure i am not thinking of at the moment , or that my form of Aikido does not teach.
Just let me know if you have any other questions
rei,
morgan
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no yonkyo or shihonage?
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12-22-2008, 07:17 AM
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Re: The most troubling question
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The most troubling question
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The most troubling question I have is: "What am I going to wear today?"
Ah, each has his own problems it seems.
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12-22-2008, 07:50 AM
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Dojo: VA tenshinkai
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Re: The most troubling question
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Morgan Wible wrote:
Not in the form of Aikido i study, we dont practice either; Yonkyo doesnt work on everyone(including a very flexible young woman at my dojo). So its basically just the 3 i listed with us, unless you include Kote-gaeishi.
And sayu nage is kinda like kokyu-nage, but with the back of your arm, versus the inside; does that make sense?(and its not my favorite, haha)
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Quote:
Marko Ilic wrote:
It makes sense but some people refer to yonkyo as Sumi otoshi i dont know why. I think yonkyo can be resisted easily if you do yoga to strech your arms.
Thanks
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I don't know how it is performed in your dojo but it has nothing to do with flexability in mine, and we can get it to work on anyone. Also it is my understanding that sumiotoshi is specifically projecting the uke's balance to what we call the third leg; a certain spot on the floor relative to the uke's stance and yonkyo is a matter of control through the forearm in any direction you like.
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Marko Ilic wrote:
Are there techniques like Rokkyo,Shickyo,Hachkyo...
And how about Hijinage, Aikinage, Kote oroshi...
Thanks,
Marko
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I have not heard of any of these except for aikinage which is a Daito ryu technique that has found a home in a few Aikido kokyunage.
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Cpl. P. N. Wallace
Kijinkan school founder & instructor
Aikijujutsu
Kashima Shinden Jikishinkage ryu kenjutsu
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12-22-2008, 11:24 AM
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Re: The most troubling question
Oh, sorry I meant to say that some people refer to hiji-otoshi as yonkyo. I'm really sorry for the mistake my friend was here when I was writing this and he mentioned sumi-otoshi so I wrote that. When I was reading the replies I saw someone said that, but when I looked at the name-oh snap I didn't write it right.
Thank you for the understanding (if you understand),
Marko
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I am not black belt, but I am cool
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12-22-2008, 12:08 PM
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Re: All of the Techniques in Aikido?
The pressure point in yonkajo/yonkyo doesn't work on everyone, but proper body movement and control of the center works on many more people than simply using a pressure point.
Of course, no method is infallible...
Best,
Ron
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