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Old 08-22-2005, 10:39 PM   #51
James Clum
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Re: BJJ vs. Aikido

A choke can be applied many ways. A person being choked with constricting pressure around the front of the neck will prevent blood flow to the brain. It will also like cause the person to not get air. In addition, baroreceptors are found on the left and right of the adam's apple which when stimulated with pressure can make a person feint. In addition, the vagus nerve runs in this area which when stimulated correctly can cause the heart to react in such a way by the sympathetic nervous system that person could go into cardiac arrest. Although blood flow also comes by way of arteries running through the cervical vertebrae to brain, to keep a person conscious one needs all of the blood and the oxygen that it carries to the brain.
With regard to applying a lock on one finger during a fight, one can definately control a person during a fight with even a tiny pinch. It depends on when you try to take this control. If the person is charging you with a lot of adrenaline, then sure they may not feel it. If a person is putting there hands on you and you both people are relaxed, then controlling fingers, pinching and so on have there place.
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:11 AM   #52
Michael Neal
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Re: BJJ vs. Aikido

I have had many people try and use pinching, pressure points, and such things during grappling and all they have ever amounted to was a slight annoyance. And it almost never gets them in a better postion, It usually just gets me mad and I tighten my pin or go for a painful submission technique.
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Old 08-23-2005, 06:27 PM   #53
Rupert Atkinson
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Re: BJJ vs. Aikido

I was taught - in several dfferent places, that a choke blocked off the air (trachea) and that a strangle stopped the flow of blood (ans I still follow this distinction). Of course, you might like to think you can get both at the same time but I was also taught in Judo that the wise artist aims for only one.

Also, once any choke or strangle is 'on' properly it's all over - you can't get out of it. The trick to get out of any such hold is to do so while it is in the process of being applied, which ultimately depeneds upon your skill. If the hold against you is 'on', you obviously do not have the skill, otherwise you would not have ended up in that position.

As a point of note, a good strangle or choke does not hurt at all. If it does, something is amiss.

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