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Old 07-06-2020, 03:38 AM   #1
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31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8

Which sort of attack lies behind moves 7 & 8 in the 31 kata kumi jo? I have heard several bids. Any opinions?

When this attack from behind is considered, how should one's movement in move 7 be in order to avoid the attack and deal with the new attacker before turning back to the original one?

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Old 07-09-2020, 07:11 PM   #2
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Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8

Hello Stefan,

Well, perhaps the users of AikiWeb are not 31 kumi-jo addicts. Have you compared the moves here with the relevant moves in the kumi-tachi sequence?

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Old 07-15-2020, 01:47 AM   #3
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Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8

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Hello Stefan,

Well, perhaps the users of AikiWeb are not 31 kumi-jo addicts. Have you compared the moves here with the relevant moves in the kumi-tachi sequence?
Hah, it appears not. Well, bonum est

In relation to your question I have put in all possible attacks with ken and jo and tried different approaches. Pretty simple with “standard” tsuki and uchi, but needs some adjustment in relation to the hasso gaeshi and katate series. I was just interested to hear if anybody had any idea what would be the “formal” attack from uchi no. 2 . I adore the 31-kata, so many possibilities. At the moment me and my buddies are having much interest and variety when playing around with the kumi jo/ken tai jo

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Old 07-15-2020, 09:26 AM   #4
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Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8

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Hah, it appears not. Well, bonum est

In relation to your question I have put in all possible attacks with ken and jo and tried different approaches. Pretty simple with "standard" tsuki and uchi, but needs some adjustment in relation to the hasso gaeshi and katate series. I was just interested to hear if anybody had any idea what would be the "formal" attack from uchi no. 2 . I adore the 31-kata, so many possibilities. At the moment me and my buddies are having much interest and variety when playing around with the kumi jo/ken tai jo

Best regards, be well & stay safe

Stefan
Just had some very interesting input from Ethan Sensei. Seems there are a few things I have not really considered. Will investigate further
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Just had some very interesting input from Ethan Sensei. Seems there are a few things I have not really considered. Will investigate further
Well, Ethan came here and did a 31-kumi-jo seminar recently and it was noted by students that I do it slightly differently. I learned it from a Saito serminar here in Hiroshima quite a few years ago. PAG

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Old 07-19-2020, 02:48 AM   #6
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Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8

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Well, Ethan came here and did a 31-kumi-jo seminar recently and it was noted by students that I do it slightly differently. I learned it from a Saito serminar here in Hiroshima quite a few years ago. PAG
I can believe it, so many variation - big and small. Fascinating diveristy and potential.

Often have I heard Ethan Sensei saying: "there are many right ways of doing things". Wonderful wisdom!

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