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Old 05-26-2012, 12:52 PM   #1
David Orange
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Richard Kim

Re: If it has to be felt, what does a feeling look like?

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I was just reading Richard Kim and he said that a sensei must often feel like a person yodeling in a mountain valley. He hears lots of echoes but wonders if anyone hears him.

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Nice. I'm not usually a fan, but that's a good one.
Just wondering why you're not a fan?

I first noticed Richard Kim in 1978 when someone gave me a copy of one of his books. I had probably read some of his articles in Black Belt before that, but I took notice of him from then on and one of my better teachers used to speak very highly of him.

I just looked over his website and, while it opens up some very shady questions about his wartime activities, when he was trapped in Shanghai, it has really made me more deeply impressed with him. He got his black belt in karate from Gogen Yamaguchi at the same time as Mas Oyama. They were brown belts together. Etc., etc., etc.

I've always enjoyed reading his stories, so I'm just wondering what bothers you about him?

Best to you.

David

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Old 05-26-2012, 04:54 PM   #2
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Re: Richard Kim

Hi David,
Just a personal thing that doesn't qualify for public discussion. Never met the guy. Have no personal experience to report. My opinion doesn't matter.

As for my comment the important part is that was a really nice quote. The other part is throwaway.

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Old 05-26-2012, 08:38 PM   #3
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Re: Richard Kim

Hello Gentleman,

Richard Kim's lectures on Yoshida Kotaro are interesting/entertaining. I've also seen a DVD of his called Ki. He shows the eight brocade chigong and also the five tibetian rites. With some good stories thrown in. Mr Kim seems like a intresting character. I would have liked to meet him.

Which of his books would you recomend? Thanks.

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Old 05-26-2012, 10:11 PM   #4
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Hello Gentleman,

Richard Kim's lectures on Yoshida Kotaro are interesting/entertaining. I've also seen a DVD of his called Ki. He shows the eight brocade chigong and also the five tibetian rites. With some good stories thrown in. Mr Kim seems like a intresting character. I would have liked to meet him.

Which of his books would you recomend? Thanks.

Take care,
ChrisW
Richard Kim had quite the illustrious career, earning karate black belt as a peer of Mas Oyama, training for many years with Yoshida Kotaro (a direct student of Sokaku Takeda, and the man who introduced Morihei Ueshiba to Takeda), training in Baguazhang in Shanghai and with many masters of many arts. He was peers with and senior to many people who later became much more famous than he, but I doubt many of them had the kind of intellect Kim had. Frankly, he doesn't look like much, but anyone who hung out daily with Mas Oyama and trained with him under Yamaguchi must have been incredibly tough.

As far as books, I know of only two: The Weaponless Warriors and The Classical Man, both being well worth the cost (in my opinion).

But here is a site dedicated to him, created by people who knew him well. I've just spent a few hours perusing it and I'm even more profoundly amazed at his life and work:

http://www.richardkimmartialartist.com/home.html

Extremely interesting.

One thing I learned that puzzles me, though: Kim actually trained, apparently, with Morihei Ueshiba and he was good friends with Tamura, Ueshiba's famous student.

Kim speaks incredibly well of pretty much every martial artist he ever met, including Mas Oyama, Hidetaka Nishiyama, Yoshida Kotaro and many others; and he speaks incredibly well of the many great Okinawan karate masters. But I have never seen him mention Morihei Ueshiba even once in all that I've read of and about him. And I wonder why that is.

Guess I'll hit Google again and see what I can learn.

Best wishes.

David

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Old 05-27-2012, 11:59 AM   #5
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Dave,

Thank you for the info. I'll check them out. Ueshiba and Tamura, wow. Keep us posted. Thanks again.

ChrisW
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