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09-03-2009, 12:07 AM
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Dojo: Kenshinkan Dojo (Aikido of North County) Vista, CA
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
Police work just isn't that exciting and they will film dozens of hours for a few minutes of airtime. They will do everything they can to manufacture some drama, but it really won't be representative of what officers do on a daily basis. Now for me, getting the chance to watch him chase a suspect on foot will be worth the price of admission. For someone who can move so gracefully, he sure runs strangely.
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"Leave the gun. Bring the cannoli."
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09-03-2009, 01:15 AM
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Dojo: Seibukan Aikido UK
Location: body in UK, heart still in Japan
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
Now that
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George S. Ledyard wrote:
Personally, I'd like to see Segal Sensei paired with Dog Bounty Hunter as a "Reality" TV Show... from a marketing standpoint that would bring in just the right kind of student...
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followed closely by
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Fred Little wrote:
To be fair, the full title of the series is:
Steven Seagal: Lawman -- Out for Donuts!
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just made me spray coffee over the keyboard
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Jason Jordan wrote:
I' m not going to be excited until I see some actual waza going on.
If they show him teaching I will be good with that, but you know these movie types....Bait you in with what he's known for, and then for the rest of the series you are looking for Aikido and there is none.
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Since this is a "reality" TV show following a Police department,I wouldn't expect to see any Aikido at all, other than the bits where he is teaching/ demonstrating to other officers.
Still, if it ever makes it to the UK, might take a peak into the first episode at least
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A difficult problem is easily solved by asking yourself the question, "Just how would the Lone Ranger handle this?"
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09-03-2009, 08:30 AM
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Dojo: Charlotte Aikikai Agatsu Dojo
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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George S. Ledyard wrote:
Personally, I'd like to see Segal Sensei paired with Dog Bounty Hunter as a "Reality" TV Show... from a marketing standpoint that would bring in just the right kind of student...
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for a moment i thought you said to pair with Dog Whisperer. i was going to scream "NO! THINK of THE POOR DOGS!"
personally, i think the dog whisperer dude projects better energy than most aikido folks.
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09-03-2009, 10:47 AM
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Dojo: midwest aikido center
Location: chicago
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Michael Hackett wrote:
...getting the chance to watch him chase a suspect on foot will be worth the price of admission. For someone who can move so gracefully, he sure runs strangely.
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hahahahaa i read this and it brought back memories of that chase scene from 'above the law' and i nearly spit out my mountain dew!!!!
as far as the police work itself, i agree. they're going to go through alot of footage before something more exciting than a traffic stop happens.
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09-03-2009, 10:56 AM
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Dojo: Aozora Dojo
Location: Birmingham, AL
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Jason Jordan wrote:
I' m not going to be excited until I see some actual waza going on.
If they show him teaching I will be good with that, but you know these movie types....Bait you in with what he's known for, and then for the rest of the series you are looking for Aikido and there is none.
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This is where I see a lot of liability coming in for Seagal, A&E, the Parish and probably more folks if anyone should get seriously hurt during what could be argued to be essentially an action scene manufactured for the sake of entertainment. And the first thing they'd do is subpoena every second of video from all the shoots to show what kind of attitudes Seagal had and what kind of attitudes were being passed along in training the officers. And I doubt any car load of cops would want every moment of their interactions available for a trial lawyer's perusal...at leisure. So I would bet chances are low of seeing Seagal seriously handling anyone on the street.
...at least it won't be another SS movie with bad vocal overdubs.[/quote]
This does explain the funky (read: stinky) accent Seagal was using in the last few of his movies I saw. I couldn't figure out why he now has this thing for bad Louisiana impressions. And now I know.
Still, this does raise some questions as to why he has chosen to portray Louisiana and New Orleans cops the way he does--or at least portrays himself to be one of them. His character is never bounded by law or ranking officers, or any ethical considerations except to kill some guy--find him and kill him. And lately, the "action" scenes have been very choppy and heavily repetitive brutal slam-arounds, where they splice a punch in four times or have the guy crash through the table top about four or five times in quick succession. Not well done, just brutal and repetitive and senseless. And that's how he portrays a Louisiana cop on one of his recent movies.
It will be really interesting to see how he handles the real-life stuff.
David
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09-03-2009, 11:25 AM
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Dojo: Aikido Eastside
Location: Bellevue, WA
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
Segal Sensei just may be the only Tibetan Buddhist Tulku who is a also a police officer, has a background in black ops with the CIA, and learned the Blues at the feet of old black blues men in Detroit as a child. AND he does Aikido. Not your average police officer...
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09-03-2009, 12:08 PM
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
Will he have a cliche'd sidekick like Sammo?
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09-03-2009, 12:36 PM
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Dojo: Jiyushinkan
Location: Monroe, Washington
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Phi Truong wrote:
... personally, i think the dog whisperer dude projects better energy than most aikido folks.
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The dog whisperer dude grew up as a serious judo student and won championships in the junior divisions.
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09-03-2009, 01:28 PM
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Dojo: Dallas Aikikai/ Southlake Aikikai
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
Well I think by now we all know that "Reality T.v." isn't really Reality. So I won't be surprised to see some Jerry Springer (esque) moments. Just enough for them to say it has action in it.
And to David Orange, overdubs is exactly what he was doing....I just couldn't figure out why? In some movies it was not even a LA. accent but one that was similar to those you here when they announce new scary movie.
All in all I wish him the best. I started Aikido becuase of him even though he runs like a very very tall girl.
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09-03-2009, 01:34 PM
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Location: CA
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Darryl Cowens wrote:
Will he have a cliche'd sidekick like Sammo?
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Sammo says "...not out of shape, just fat" My hero!
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09-03-2009, 02:09 PM
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Dojo: Aikido Arts of Shin Budo Kai/ Bedford Hills, New York
Location: New York
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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George S. Ledyard wrote:
Segal Sensei just may be the only Tibetan Buddhist Tulku who is a also a police officer, has a background in black ops with the CIA, and learned the Blues at the feet of old black blues men in Detroit as a child. AND he does Aikido. Not your average police officer...
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George:
You forgot that he also has a knack of falling asleep while playing with stuntmen . Now, if all of those activities do not lead to enlightenment, then all hope is lost.
Marc
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09-03-2009, 03:02 PM
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Dojo: Dallas Aikikai/ Southlake Aikikai
Location: Southlake Texas
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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George:
You forgot that he also has a knack of falling asleep while playing with stuntmen . Now, if all of those activities do not lead to enlightenment, then all hope is lost.
Marc
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Stuntmen that where pink gi's.
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09-03-2009, 03:17 PM
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Dojo: Aikido of Lake Keowee
Location: South Carolina
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
I will check it out, but I have to agree with Ledyard Sensei. The people who might get interested may not necessarily be the student a Dojo may want but consider that Aikido will have an impact on them. They will either love it or leave it.
Thank ya verrry much,
Doc
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"Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will"
Gandhi
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09-03-2009, 03:55 PM
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Location: Miami, FL
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Looks pretty serious to me.
I quite like Seagal's movies, but he come's across as a bit of a prat when I've seen him interviewed.
Looks entertaining if nothing else.
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Britishism: "prat?"
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09-03-2009, 04:04 PM
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Location: Miami, FL
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Jerome Cervantes wrote:
hahaha drew, i haven't seen the avogadro number in years!!!!!
but isn't it 6.02 x 1023 ? :P
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I don't know much about Illinois except for an airplane switch in O'Hare, but in the rest of America the underlined 23 would mean 23 repeating after the 10. Until Aikiweb gets superscript, exponents will be written with the carrot (^). I will not tolerate insolence. If you were making a joke, I think I get it. Thanks for actually paying attention with me in chemistry. This number was drilled into my mind. We even had a "mole day" and Tootsie "mole" pops were distributed about the classroom. It still baffles me that my warm hearted, though extremely fascist chem teacher lets us have candy during class!
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09-03-2009, 04:05 PM
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Location: Miami, FL
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Drew Gardner wrote:
I don't know much about Illinois except for an airplane switch in O'Hare, but in the rest of America the underlined 23 would mean 23 repeating after the 10. Until Aikiweb gets superscript, exponents will be written with the carrot (^). I will not tolerate insolence. If you were making a joke, I think I get it. Thanks for actually paying attention with me in chemistry. This number was drilled into my mind. We even had a "mole day" and Tootsie "mole" pops were distributed about the classroom. It still baffles me that my warm hearted, though extremely fascist chem teacher lets us have candy during class!
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Ahh, you must see it as Michael Jordan's number! :-b
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09-04-2009, 09:16 AM
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Dojo: midwest aikido center
Location: chicago
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Drew Gardner wrote:
I don't know much about Illinois except for an airplane switch in O'Hare, but in the rest of America the underlined 23 would mean 23 repeating after the 10. Until Aikiweb gets superscript, exponents will be written with the carrot (^)...
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that's true, drew. forgive my 'superscript ignorance.' i was just referring to your original post (#12)listing avogadro's num as 6.02x10^ 24
N0 0NE DISSES THE AV0GADR0 NUMBER!!!!!! :P
anyways, sorry for the thread drift, guys
back on topic...
should be an interesting 45 minutes in jefferson parish... or however long the series lasts
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09-04-2009, 12:15 PM
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Dojo: Doshinkan dojo in Roxborough, Pa
Location: Phila. Pa
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
Speaking of reality shows, that nut who murdered (alledgedly) his wife...wasn't he already married while courting people on that show he was on???
Best,
Ron (Reality my @$$)
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09-04-2009, 01:47 PM
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Dojo: Dallas Aikikai/ Southlake Aikikai
Location: Southlake Texas
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Ron Tisdale wrote:
Speaking of reality shows, that nut who murdered (alledgedly) his wife...wasn't he already married while courting people on that show he was on???
Best,
Ron (Reality my @$$)
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C'mon now Ron. This is American Media we are talking about, we would never lie about T.V. reality to get ratings or money...That's just not right.
Nothing on Jerry Springer is ever fixed or rigged. It's just good ole American Reality!
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09-04-2009, 01:50 PM
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Dojo: Shin Budo Kai
Location: Manhattan
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
Script format:
Steven: "We have a situation."
Steven on radio: "What's the situation."
Steven to camera: "Here's the situation..."
Steven: "Go, go!"
Steven arrives on scene.
Steven: "Everyone, calm down."
Arrest is made.
Roll credits.
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"The martial arts progress from the complex to the simple."
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09-05-2009, 08:06 AM
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Dojo: Dallas Aikikai/ Southlake Aikikai
Location: Southlake Texas
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Lyle Bogin wrote:
Script format:
Steven: "We have a situation."
Steven on radio: "What's the situation."
Steven to camera: "Here's the situation..."
Steven: "Go, go!"
Steven arrives on scene.
Steven: "Everyone, calm down."
Arrest is made.
Roll credits.
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Exactly, and don't forget that he probably did the them track to.
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09-05-2009, 03:17 PM
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Dojo: ISTA
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99E16w0PxCA
its just funny to see him with big glasses acting cool in a sheriff cloths shouting "Get him" with no enthusiasm
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A good stance and posture reflects a proper state of mind
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09-05-2009, 05:34 PM
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Dojo: Aikido Arts of Shin Budo Kai/ Bedford Hills, New York
Location: New York
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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I think that it would be funnier if they filmed him changing after playing with a stuntman !
Marc Abrams
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09-07-2009, 05:18 AM
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Dojo: Seibukan, Milton Keynes
Location: At Work unless I am at the DOJO!
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
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Britishism: "prat?"
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Tudor slang word for arse.
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09-07-2009, 08:30 AM
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Dojo: Dale City Aikikai/Virginia
Location: Manassas/VA
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Re: New Steven Segal TV Series - Lawman
All this talk about a surge in interest in aikido resultant from Steven Seagal's new TV show, "Lawman," and/or the fantasy of a future reality show pairing up a Jefferson County deputy sheriff w/ a bounty hunter ...
Hmmm ... Begs the questions:
1) "Do we need a TV show or movie actor to spur interest in aikido?"
2) "What (if anything) do dojo members do to advertise or recruit new students?"
3) "Have others experimented w/ new media (facebook, twitter, etc) to attract the next generation aikidoka?"
... Of course word of mouth advertising and a personal invite to visit one's home dojo is best. Just interested in hearing other opinions.
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