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05-22-2011, 12:54 PM
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Re: In a quandary
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William Hazen wrote:
Not sure about that...I have not seen any fish win the Tour Du France.
William Hazen
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Well, sure, now, with all the water pollution they can't pass the anti-doping blood tests
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Janet Rosen
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05-22-2011, 12:54 PM
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Re: In a quandary
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Rudy Ternbach wrote:
Hi Mary,
"Magister ludi, parce simplici turbae
aetates, si valent, satis discunt." -- Marcus Valerius Martialis
Cheers!
Rudy
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Hi Rudy,
Omnis gallia in tres partes divisa est.
Sic transit gloria mundi,
Mary
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05-22-2011, 04:15 PM
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Re: In a quandary
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Demetrio Cereijo wrote:
...Rudy, What?
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Hi Demetrio,
See Martial's epigrams, where he exhorts teachers not to abuse their students.
Enjoy your practice,
Rudy
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05-22-2011, 04:35 PM
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Re: In a quandary
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Mary Malmros wrote:
...Omnis gallia in tres partes divisa est.Sic transit gloria mundi,
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Hi Mary,
Not quite sure of the point you wish to make. The one I'm trying to emphasize is:--
"The deity is within you, not in ideas and books. Truth is lived, not taught." "Magister Ludi", H.Hesse
Enjoy your practice,
Rudy
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05-22-2011, 04:48 PM
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Location: New England
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Re: In a quandary
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Janet Rosen wrote:
Well, sure, now, with all the water pollution they can't pass the anti-doping blood tests
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Hi Janet,
Lots of prescription drugs in the water supply too...seasonale, enovid, prozac, paxil, lithium, valium etc. etc. which may not cause fish to fail their doping tests but could make for some very erratic bike riding in fish otherwise able to compete quite well on the velodrome circuit.
Enjoy your practice,
Rudy
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05-22-2011, 05:03 PM
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Location: Massachusetts
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Re: In a quandary
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Rudy Ternbach wrote:
Hi Mary,
Not quite sure of the point you wish to make.
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I'll translate. What I said is:
"I don't speak Latin. What you have just said means nothing to me."
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Rudy Ternbach wrote:
The one I'm trying to emphasize is:--
"The deity is within you, not in ideas and books. Truth is lived, not taught." "Magister Ludi", H.Hesse
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That's all well and good, but I think it's a non sequitur here.
(that is to say, it does not follow. Ipse dixit!)
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05-22-2011, 05:22 PM
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Re: In a quandary
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Rudy Ternbach wrote:
Hi Demetrio,
See Martial's epigrams, where he exhorts teachers not to abuse their students.
Enjoy your practice,
Rudy
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The problem, Rudy, is that you misquoted Martial and what you posted makes no sense. Even in Latin.
Regards.
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05-22-2011, 05:44 PM
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Re: In a quandary
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Mary Malmros wrote:
...What I said is:
"I don't speak Latin. What you have just said means nothing to me.
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Hi Mary and Demetrio,
In replying to the ongoing debate on how to teach mindfulness, train aikidoka, meditate, etc. I quoted Martial (sorry if my memory of the latin or my translation here are in error)
"Magister Ludi , (Master of Games ), spare the simple throng, life, if they are well, teaches enough". - Martial (Epigrams, c.100 A.D.).
That quote was the source of the title for Hesse's great novel which touches on many of the issues being discussed and includes this quote...
"The deity is within you, not in ideas and books. Truth is lived, not taught. -- "Magister Ludi" (Herman Hesse, c. 1943).
If my opinions in this thread or if the relationship of the quotes to the onging debate are not sufficiently clear then the fault is mine and I accept it fully. My intent was only to let some new light in and not to start a ruckus.
Enjoy your practice,
Rudy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEW0BtFuj5I
Last edited by abraxis : 05-22-2011 at 05:56 PM.
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05-22-2011, 06:12 PM
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Re: In a quandary
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Rudy Ternbach wrote:
Hi Mary and Demetrio,
In replying to the ongoing debate on how to teach mindfulness, train aikidoka, meditate, etc. I quoted Martial (sorry if my memory of the latin or my translation here are in error)
"Magister Ludi , (Master of Games ), spare the simple throng, life, if they are well, teaches enough". - Martial (Epigrams, c.100 A.D.).
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http://www.archive.org/stream/epigra...e/200/mode/2up
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My intent was only to let some new light in not start a ruckus.
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I'm sure about it, but Martial epigram is different from the abridged, edited and poorly translated version Hesse perpetrated.
Regards.
PS. Yes, a good version of Marley's "One Love". The deep meaning doesn't change. I could not say the same regarding Hesse's version of Martial you've used.
Regards again.
Last edited by Demetrio Cereijo : 05-22-2011 at 06:16 PM.
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