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Old 08-11-2011, 04:02 AM   #26
Michael Varin
Dojo: Aikido of Fresno
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 567
Re: What do we do?

I have to say, I really liked Dan's posts on this thread.

"Through aiki we can feel the mind of the enemy who comes to attack and are thus able to respond immediately." - M. Mochizuki
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Old 08-12-2011, 10:06 AM   #27
Avery Jenkins
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Dojo: Litchfield Hills Aikikai
Location: Litchfield, CT
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 158
Re: What do we do?

I figure if I want to know about another aikidoka, I'll spend some time on the mat with them. The most curious people can teach you the most interesting things sometimes.

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Old 08-13-2011, 06:45 AM   #28
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Re: What do we do?

Dan Harden wrote: View Post
Make it up? Hardly
Once again
Ueshiba studied 23 years under his one and only long term teacher, Takeda Sokaku of Daito ryu (that's the guy who really was the genius who made all this stuff up)
"It is believed that Sōkaku received his first martial arts training from his father who had a dojo on their property. Sokaku's father Sōkichi was apparently expert in the use of both sword and spear, and had once been a sumo wrestler of ozeki rank. It is believed that Sōkaku was exposed to the teachings of Hozoin-ryu Takada-ha and Ono-ha Itto-ryu, schools of spear and swordsmanship respectively.
Sōkaku then left to go on a period of austere training where he travelled, fought and trained at the schools of many teachers, a not uncommon practise of the time. Reputedly, Sōkaku spent some time as a live-in student of Kenkichi Sakakibara, headmaster of the Jikishinkage Ryu and considered to be one of the most famous and skilled swordsmen of the era".....

Then he "made it all up"

Just sayin

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Old 08-13-2011, 01:46 PM   #29
Dojo: Sakumeikan N.E. Aikkai .Newcastle upon Tyne.
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,266
United Kingdom
Re: What do we do?

Dan Harden wrote: View Post
Don Angier taught out of his garage
So does John Clodig
I believe Chris Hein as well.
Why does location, or being "known" matter at all.

Musashi -who held no rank- (therefore no lineage) was a nobody and wrecked everybody.
Takeda Sokaku -who held no known rank (therefore no lineage) showed up and wrecked everybody...and was a major influence for the founding of your art.

For that matter, for those of you who are on about lineage:
Chiba's generation of students had about six tears of training and were sent out to the world as 6th dans. You...the same people, on about lineage, would laugh in their face at that "lineage" (barely equal to our modern shodan).

The fact that most people in the modern martial arts actually suck, is the reason they look to lineage for validation. It's the only real test they've ever received. Most people in the arts couldn't remain standing in a room against people who can actually fight and egads...worse yet...fight and actually have a depth of knowledge they can use. And those gentle people who infiltrated legitimate martial arts instead of just doing Yoga, would be saying "What do we do...now..?" were they to get out of their bubble and meet some of them.
Just say'n
Dear Mr Harden,
I hate to pull you up on your incorrect statements.Chiba Sensei was a Uchi deshi of O Sensei for seven years.During this period he travelled extensively with the Founder acting as his personal assistant.
On being assigned to the U.K as the first official representative of Aikikai Foundation in 1966 his grade at that time was godan.I cannot comment on your assertion about other members of that generation.
Cheers, Joe.
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