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10-02-2008, 09:39 AM
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Dojo: Aikido Arts of Shin Budo Kai/ Bedford Hills, New York
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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Jennifer Smith wrote:
Yeah or start an Ai-Ki-Donut class. It begins with a circle.............
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Jennifer:
I tried that idea in order to strengthening my center (or is that engorge my center?), I fell into a hole! What do I do now?
Marc Abrams
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10-02-2008, 09:46 AM
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Dojo: Sword Mountain Aikido & Zen
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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Jennifer Smith wrote:
Thanks
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My apologies---especially if, at the late hour, I responded too harshly to your note
Alex said this: "There's a difference between thinking of attacking and realising attacking options. One contains intent the other doesn't." I was hoping to go a little deeper on this point.
In the sense of "If you're tired, sleep, and if you're hungry, eat," then, sure, "If you need to think, then think"---as long as you're consciously engaged. If that is what Alex meant by "intent," then I like it: He's consciously switched from the activity of standing in line waiting for coffee to the activity of considering attack options.
On the other hand (pun recognized but not intended ), if by "realising" (citing the word, not the spelling---I saw Great Britain's flag by his name) he means he finds himself thinking of attack options while he was previously waiting in line---an unconscious drift into thought---then I'd say the center is lost.
Not sure I made the distinction well here, but it's a start... In essence, if you're lost in thought, then you're lost in thought---whatever the flavor of the thought.
Through training, you first become very conscious and aware of the aspects of what you're training---there's thought. With more (and more and more) training, the aspects move out thought deeper into mind/body. This goes for sizing up a room too---realizing attack and defense options. Practice it enough and it becomes a subconscious activity---no thought; the options are available to you (realized) without the need to think about them.
Ugh---too many words...
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10-02-2008, 10:10 AM
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#53
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Dojo: Aikido of Midland, Midland TX
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
< Not sure I made the distinction well here, but it's a start... In essence, if you're lost in thought, then you're lost in thought---whatever the flavor of the thought >
Probably the most concise part of this whole discussion.
(or at least the section relating to actual awareness of options.)
Althouh, I too, like the dreaded doughnut.
Lan
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Play nice, practice hard, but remember, this is a MARTIAL art!
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10-02-2008, 10:13 AM
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#54
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Dojo: Sword Mountain Aikido & Zen
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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Lan Powers wrote:
Althouh, I too, like the dreaded doughnut.
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You may, of course, replace "thought" with "doughnut" and the statement retains it's truth and integrity
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10-02-2008, 07:22 PM
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Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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Jennifer:
I tried that idea in order to strengthening my center (or is that engorge my center?), I fell into a hole! What do I do now?
Marc Abrams
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My advice, Sutemi: Sacrifice the body to save the donut.
or Atemi: fill the hole with intention (creamed filled intention is a personal fav') .
Depending on the timing.
gambatte!
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Jennifer Paige Smith
Confluence Aikido Systems
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10-02-2008, 07:31 PM
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Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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Joe McParland wrote:
My apologies---especially if, at the late hour, I responded too harshly to your note
Through training, you first become very conscious and aware of the aspects of what you're training---there's thought. With more (and more and more) training, the aspects move out thought deeper into mind/body. This goes for sizing up a room too---realizing attack and defense options. Practice it enough and it becomes a subconscious activity---no thought; the options are available to you (realized) without the need to think about them.
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Yeah, me too, it's ok. An angry monkey signed into my account last night and posted under my name. Damn Monkeeeyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!
Now that it's really me: With more and more training it moves into independent experience, connected, magnetic, and creative. The future is unwritten until we write it in our hearts. No action/reaction. Simply kokyu/rokyu, shobu-aiki.
Having had occasion to experience this.
Now where's that donut y'all promised me .
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Jennifer Paige Smith
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10-03-2008, 08:03 AM
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Dojo: Charlotte Aikikai Agatsu Dojo
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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Now where's that donut y'all promised me .
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Jennifer, how many times do I have to tell you that these donuts are exceptional martial artists? they have not only internal skills, they also have ninja skills. they have the ability to disappear before your very eyes. they are evil. they are the Weapon of Mass Distribution. Had Ueshiba or Takeda alive, they might not prevail. therefore, you must practice zanshin, mushin, and importantly donutshin when you enter such places. Heed my warning or we will miss you at practice.
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10-03-2008, 08:59 AM
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Dojo: Big Green Drum (W. Florida Aikikai)
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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... therefore, you must practice zanshin, mushin, and importantly donutshin when you enter such places. ...
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Aah, so desu. Dounota-shin 僮宣う心. (or shortened Doushin 僮心)
For this, one must seek exceptional mastery of its subtle and ineffable meanings -- in remote and inaccessible places:
http://home.earthlink.net/~jimbaker6/aa/aaark.htm
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Cordially,
Erick Mead
一隻狗可久里馬房但他也不是馬的.
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10-03-2008, 09:07 AM
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Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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Phi Truong wrote:
Jennifer, how many times do I have to tell you that these donuts are exceptional martial artists? they have not only internal skills, they also have ninja skills. they have the ability to disappear before your very eyes. they are evil. they are the Weapon of Mass Distribution. Had Ueshiba or Takeda alive, they might not prevail. therefore, you must practice zanshin, mushin, and importantly donutshin when you enter such places. Heed my warning or we will miss you at practice.
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"There is no donut."-said like 'there is no spoon'
" Having the mind to attack, I am already behind it (The donut)."
"Even though surrounded by the many (donuts) treat them as one."
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Jennifer Paige Smith
Confluence Aikido Systems
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10-03-2008, 09:09 AM
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Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
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Best one yet!!!!!!!hahahahahahahaha LOL hahahahahaha
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Jennifer Paige Smith
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10-03-2008, 09:11 AM
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Location: Arizona
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Re: thoughts while on line at dunkin donuts for coffee
Nope, If I enter a doughnut shop, I have completly lost my center. My "internal sensei" has been bound, duct-taped, and locked in a closet. Her shocked "you're not REALLY going to EAT that?" carefully deleted from the record.
For the record, Mongo is right; apple fritters rule. But one should also consider the virtues of the custard-filled, chocolate-iced variety.
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...not as evil as I could be
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