Welcome to AikiWeb Aikido Information
AikiWeb: The Source for Aikido Information
AikiWeb's principal purpose is to serve the Internet community as a repository and dissemination point for aikido information.

aikido articles


dojo search
image gallery
links directory

book reviews
video reviews
dvd reviews
equip. reviews


rss feeds

Follow us on

Home > AikiWeb Aikido Forums
Go Back   AikiWeb Aikido Forums > Language

Hello and thank you for visiting AikiWeb, the world's most active online Aikido community! This site is home to over 22,000 aikido practitioners from around the world and covers a wide range of aikido topics including techniques, philosophy, history, humor, beginner issues, the marketplace, and more.

If you wish to join in the discussions or use the other advanced features available, you will need to register first. Registration is absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!

Thread Tools
Old 03-21-2006, 12:25 PM   #26
pezalinski's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido of Harvard (IL)
Location: harvard, IL
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 159
RE "Release" vs. "Throw"

I have actually read the entire article , and consider Beth's effort a brave but immature attempt to change the world. It is a well written argument, but fundamentally flawed: IMHO, semantics cannot clear up the improper teaching of a technique, or the inadequate understanding of it's principals.

A spud is still a spud, even if you call it a potato.

"Release" has more gravitas to it than "throw", but the implication that no energy is to be added to a technique, because you call it a 'release' instead of a 'throw,' well, that belies my experience with baseball, as a pitcher, controlling the release of the ball -- I added a LOT of energy to that object before it was released.

Don't get me wrong -- people who accelerate the throw prior to release are a potential danger to themselves and others. BUT - sometimes you have to add energy to a throw to compete it safely. Not all the time or under all circumstances is uke's initial attack present total sufficient energy to complete the technique. Nage has the option of adding energy to the throw or subtracting (negating, actually) existing energy from the throw, prior to the release, to harmonize with the attack and the attacker.

Trying to institute a semantic change to try to impede this kind of activity for moral or philosophical reasons is surely a misguided effort... Changing 'attack' to 'approach' doesn't change the fact that the person standing in front of me is trying to hit me in the head with a bokken (in-love-and-harmony).

Keiko Keiko Keiko -- shut up and train.

A little danger is a knowledge thing...

"Helping the planet make an impact on people, since 1985"
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 11:25 PM   #27
mathewjgano's Avatar
Dojo: Tsubaki Kannagara Jinja Aikidojo; Himeji Shodokan Dojo
Location: Renton
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,248
Re: "Nage" to "Release" - Article

Added force applied near the termination point of the technique is not needed to stop the attack and neutralize the attacker; it is far too late for that to be effective. The attack should be neutralized much earlier--at the opening--so that the application of technique provides genuine resolution rather than contributing its own measure of violence.
I've often thought of the "throw" as a means of propelling uke to a particular location, which could in fact be necessary to save uke's life. By exerting a burst of energy via a throw, I might simply be loading uke up to be displaced to a greater distance. This can be both good or bad and isn't inherently one or the other, in my view. I agree any number of factors can make one term more or less difficult to understand than another, and I can see how some people might make a "throw" more violent than it needs to be, but it seems simplistic to assume a change in terminology would fix this.

  Reply With Quote

Please visit our sponsor:

AikiWeb Sponsored Links - Place your Aikido link here for only $10!


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What exactly is an independent dojo? David Yap General 64 11-14-2011 02:05 PM
Article: "Bavasi Plays for Checkmate" akiy General 0 01-17-2005 03:54 PM
Chado and Aikido/Criticism On an Article Anders Bjonback General 15 09-03-2003 12:41 PM
AikiWeb News: New Article: Learning from the Learned AikiWeb System AikiWeb System 1 10-31-2002 05:45 AM

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:32 PM.

vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2020 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
Copyright 1997-2020 AikiWeb and its Authors, All Rights Reserved.
For questions and comments about this website:
Send E-mail
plainlaid-picaresque outchasing-protistan explicantia-altarage seaford-stellionate