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04-25-2005, 07:20 AM
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Dojo: Puget Sound Aikikai
Location: Seattle
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Re: Clean haks
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Chuck Gordon wrote:
Depends. My tetron one, just throw in the wash (normal cycle), hang to dry, fold. Cotton, throw in wash (cold), hang to dry, iron before it's fully dry, then fold.
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Where do I get a tetron one? (If this is the fabric I'm thinking of, its very lightweight, right?)
Jeanne
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04-25-2005, 07:56 AM
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Location: Frederick, MD
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Re: Clean haks
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Jeanne Shepard wrote:
Where do I get a tetron one? (If this is the fabric I'm thinking of, its very lightweight, right?)
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Yep, fairly lightweight, very tough, always looks spiffy. I got mine (Meirin brand) from Peter Boylan's Mugendo Budogu ( www.budogu.com).
cg
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04-25-2005, 02:03 PM
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#78
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Dojo: Seiwa Dojo and Southside Dojo
Location: Battle Creek & Kalamazoo, MI
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
I got mine from E-bogu.
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"A pacifist is not really a pacifist if he is unable to make a choice between violence and non-violence. A true pacifist is able to kill or maim in the blink of an eye, but at the moment of impending destruction of the enemy he chooses non-violence."
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04-27-2005, 06:53 PM
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#79
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Dojo: Puget Sound Aikikai
Location: Seattle
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
By the way, Chuck,
Are you the guy on the Antarctica Aikikai website who looks like a walrus?
(Or, ARE you a walrus?)
Not sure of the url but there is a link from < www.tantobeak.com >
Jeanne
Last edited by Jeanne Shepard : 04-27-2005 at 06:56 PM.
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04-27-2005, 11:30 PM
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Dojo: Puget Sound Aikikai
Location: Seattle
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
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Bronson Diffin wrote:
I got mine from E-bogu.
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Are you supposed to leave those white stitches in ?
Jeanne
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04-28-2005, 03:23 AM
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#81
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Location: Frederick, MD
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
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Jeanne Shepard wrote:
By the way, Chuck,
Are you the guy on the Antarctica Aikikai website who looks like a walrus?
(Or, ARE you a walrus?)
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Umm. Yeah. That's Me. Koo koo ka choo.
Thanks goodness Jim Baker hasn't had MORE time on his hands.
Chuck
BTW, take the white threads out of your hak before wearing it ...
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04-28-2005, 01:17 PM
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#82
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Dojo: Sukagawa Aikido Club of Montreal
Location: Montreal
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
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Chuck Gordon wrote:
BTW, take the white threads out of your hak before wearing it ...
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Awww, you missed your chance to pull a fast one! Dang!
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04-28-2005, 07:50 PM
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#83
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Dojo: Puget Sound Aikikai
Location: Seattle
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
I thought they were sort of pretty...
Jeanne
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04-29-2005, 08:13 PM
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Dojo: University or Oregon
Location: Eugene, OR
Join Date: Nov 2004
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they're just pants!
I'm just killing time waiting to go to work but I can't help but chime in on this one. While I've certainly seen my share of ridiculous hakama (and other uniform bits), I think it's important to remember not to take any of this too seriously. The tradition of hakama is this; they're pants. True, they're traditional Japanese pants. But over the few hundred years they've been around there have been many styles, fabric patterns, and colors. Traditional samurai attire was simply a kimono and hakama, with the appropriate outer garments for the circumstances. It's like our standard business suit. The keiko gi was an adaptation to facilitate training. They just kept the pants because they felt, well, naked without 'em! Personally, my gi is white and my hakama are black, but only because I'm boring. I always thought the black and white striped ones look kind of vibrant and the white ones seem very refined (though I don't think I'd where white because I've seen so much footage of O'sensei in white and it would feel arrogant).
Anyway, they're just pants... Much love.
-Brian
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05-01-2005, 07:58 PM
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#85
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Dojo: Iwama Shinshin Aiki Shuren Juku
Location: Iwama, Japan
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
White hakama, in Japan nowadays, are generally for girls, in kendo... never seen white hakama in an aikido dojo in Japan. . . or anywhere except for O'Sensei films. I've seen John Stevens Sensei at seminars with a tie dyed hakama... definitely makes him stand out.
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05-02-2005, 10:35 AM
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#86
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Dojo: Tatsumaki Dojo/Springdale, AR
Location: Springdale,AR
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
just thought to comment something...
I remember i was reading an interview somewhere of one of O'sensei students (maybe the one someone posted earlier) and they said that O'sensei required everyone to wear hakama and that (if i remember the interview correctly) they did dye them solid colors but as many people were poor they would get the fabric where they could...curtains, fabric from furniture, etc. and that with time the dye would fade and the original color and design of the fabric would show through! So that the dojo was filled with hakamas of many different colors and designs. I dont think they purposely made them different colors and designs, though. Maybe someone else will have seen that or knows more about it, but that is what i recall from the interview.
Jeremy Young
Tatsumaki Dojo
Springdale, AR
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05-02-2005, 01:17 PM
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#87
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Dojo: FL Aikido Center
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
Jeremy,
That is how I heard the story also.
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Gregory Makuch
Wandering Ronin
Spring Hill, FL
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05-02-2005, 10:43 PM
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#88
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Dojo: Tenzan Aikido/Seattle Holistic Center
Location: Seattle, Wa USA
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
Here's the Japanese translation of hakama as I read it last week
"horse riding thing you step into with two legs"
FYI, I got my tetron hak from http://aikido.tozando.com/
Actually, my Sensei sold me an old one of his but it was from Tozando. Others in the dojo have them too and they are great; nice and flowing, easy upkeep and long lasting. Doesn't have the razor sharp pleats anymore. Do any of them keep those pleats? Does anyone care?
Melissa
www.tenzanaikido.com
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05-07-2005, 10:15 PM
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#89
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Dojo: Boulder Aikikai
Location: Boulder
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
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Jeanne Shepard wrote:
By the way, just how DO you wash a hakama?
Jeanne
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I have a navy blue cotton hakama from Bujin. I wash mine in cold water on the gentle cycle and line-dry it. Machine drying will kill your pleats, as my dad discovered...
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05-22-2005, 02:53 PM
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Dojo: kaa headquarters
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
are dojo has either black or purple you can wear any of these 2 colours if yr graded i have a navy one and a dark purple one purple is my favourite colour so i wear that one mostly i saw a dan grade with his hakama split on the side so when he moved you could see the white pants of his keikogi which apparantly you are not supposed to show of yr white pants underneath yr hakama mines probably the second worst hakama i have seen creased cause always in rush to get out of training will iron it for tues :-)
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05-24-2005, 10:43 AM
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Dojo: Aikido of San Leandro
Location: Oakland, Ca
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
I remember that sensei's hakama used to have knees patched with duct tape. We finally bought her a new one, but the old one still comes out every casual friday ;-)
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Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment.
-Barry LePatner
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05-25-2005, 09:08 PM
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#92
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Dojo: K-W Ki Aikido (Kitchener, Ont)
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
Hi all:
Melissa wrote:
>> Doesn't have the razor sharp pleats anymore. Do any of them keep those pleats? Does anyone care?
Carol Shifflet taught me to use water and vinegar and an iron- pleats are permanent if you are ironing anything with synthetics in it- in case anyone cares.
e ya later
Jill.
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05-25-2005, 10:31 PM
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#93
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Dojo: Puget Sound Aikikai
Location: Seattle
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
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James Matarrese wrote:
I remember that sensei's hakama used to have knees patched with duct tape. We finally bought her a new one, but the old one still comes out every casual friday ;-)
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Is that Pat Hendricks Sensei?!
Jeanne
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06-10-2007, 08:42 AM
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#94
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Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
Location: Santa Cruz
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
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Heather Bungard Janney wrote:
Hawaiian print hakama. Wow. I think I have a new goal to shoot for -- one of my "reasons aikido is cool" before I actually started looking seriously into it, was that you got to wear a hakama.
Maybe I can get a nice deep green one; no stripes or anything, just green instead of blue. The color has symbolic importance to me, just as I suspect the traditional blue and black ones do. Ya think?
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There is 'Ki' ranking in some dojo where a green hakama is awarded when you reach shodan.I believe that practice is alive and well in Hawaii, so maybe you can go full tropical explosion with a green hakama and a hawaiian print keiko gi. FYI.
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Jennifer Paige Smith
Confluence Aikido Systems
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08-17-2007, 06:52 AM
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#95
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Dojo: YMCA-YWCA Uppsala Aikido
Location: Uppsala
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
during the "all sweden" seminar 1998 there were a pretty cool hakama presented. The whole idea was to make a funny exhibition. The pattern was cow-like. I have no time to translate the whole article, but there sure is a nice picture on the hakama
http://fy.chalmers.se/~frtae/aikido/...y/history.html
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08-17-2007, 09:47 AM
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Dojo: Elkton Ki-Aikido
Location: Virginia
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
LOL Patrick that is a riot! Did he make that himself, or get it somewhere?
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08-20-2007, 12:25 AM
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Dojo: YMCA-YWCA Uppsala Aikido
Location: Uppsala
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
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Lori Snidow wrote:
LOL Patrick that is a riot! Did he make that himself, or get it somewhere?
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I actually know the woman who sew it on her sewingmachine. Nowadays she makes "real" hakamas for ordering. She is very talented and she makes quite a few hakamas every year on her sparetime
So the Cow hakama was actually pretty well- made
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08-20-2007, 03:00 AM
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Dojo: Aunkai, Tokyo
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
I always used to buy cotton hakama because of their durability. Disadvantage is that the pleats disappear much more easily than with a synthetic fabric hakama, so due care is needed in folding. As part of the care, I also used to have mine dry-cleaned rather than use my washing machine. On my only trip home where I had the thing with me, I gave it, nicely folded, to the dry-cleaning place, and told them I'd like it back the same way LOL Needless to say, on coming to claim it, the lady had this "thing" laid on the counter in a semi-contorted pose, and a desperate look on her face, which turned to a look of wonder as I deftly folded it in front of her eyes. I bet she suspected trickery with all manner of garments after that :-)
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08-31-2007, 10:44 AM
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Dojo: USF Aikido
Location: Tampa
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Those are great!
My dojo has an Aiki-BBQ every so often, so I started making Aiki-aprons for them. I prefer the blue with some kanji, but the cow print pleather one is classic! It looks like a small set of chaps!
My favorite is one that says "kiss the cook" in japanese down the side...
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08-31-2007, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Re: Good Hakama Gone Bad
You know what gets my goat about hakamas...freaken white pants showing from the bottom! Jesus Christ can't someone tell them this just looks stupid...like they got high waters on or some $#@%.
And for those of you that say..."why don't you tell um"..I'm a lowly 4th kyu so I ain't saying nothing to no damn black belt; that should fall on the other dans in the room.
mutter...mutter...for crying out loud... white pants, freaken hakama floods...I can't take this anymore...
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