|
|
Hello and thank you for visiting AikiWeb, the
world's most active online Aikido community! This site is home to
over 22,000 aikido practitioners from around the world and covers a
wide range of aikido topics including techniques, philosophy, history,
humor, beginner issues, the marketplace, and more.
If you wish to join in the discussions or use the other advanced
features available, you will need to register first. Registration is
absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!
|
04-17-2007, 03:23 AM
|
#1
|
Dojo: Komyozan Dojo - Boise, ID
Location: Boise, ID
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 15
Offline
|
Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Found this Aikido video channel that someone has set up and this video in particular was cool to watch. It's a video of O'sensei when he was younger but it is is surprisingly good quality.
http://aikido.magnify.net/item/S5SHCS8VN29SMYJP
enjoy.
|
|
|
|
04-17-2007, 09:24 AM
|
#2
|
Dojo: Aikido of Midland
Location: Midland Texas
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,652
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
said invalid content when I clicked on link?
|
|
|
|
04-17-2007, 10:26 AM
|
#3
|
Dojo: Aikido at the Center
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 26
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
I got a Javascript warning on that site that they haven't tested with Konqueror, but it seems to work.
|
|
|
|
04-17-2007, 11:52 AM
|
#4
|
Dojo: Doshinkan dojo in Roxborough, Pa
Location: Phila. Pa
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,615
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
No good here either...is it the Asahi dojo clip?
B,
R
|
Ron Tisdale
-----------------------
"The higher a monkey climbs, the more you see of his behind."
St. Bonaventure (ca. 1221-1274)
|
|
|
04-17-2007, 02:27 PM
|
#5
|
Dojo: Komyozan Dojo - Boise, ID
Location: Boise, ID
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 15
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
John Riggs wrote:
said invalid content when I clicked on link?
|
Well crap, my friend had the same thing happen. I'm using Firefox and its working fine. Hmm, don't see any way to download it off of this site :x
|
|
|
|
04-17-2007, 03:57 PM
|
#6
|
Dojo: aikijujitsu, unaffiliated
Location: New Orleans
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 35
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
No problems here with Firefox on Linux. And yes, Ron, it is the Asahi dojo film.
Michael
|
|
|
|
05-05-2007, 02:45 PM
|
#7
|
Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
Location: Santa Cruz
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,049
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
No problem. I'm using a Macbook and I was able to enjoy the footage. Thanks.
My personal review-
"DANG!"-Confluence Daily Times
|
|
|
|
05-05-2007, 04:11 PM
|
#8
|
Location: Bangkok
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 803
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
IMHO, this is the aikido we should take as a training model, not that of a 70+ years old.
|
|
|
|
05-05-2007, 04:48 PM
|
#9
|
Dojo: Kingston Aikido
Location: New York
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 322
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Man! That was SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
Karen
"Try not. Do...or do not. There is no try." - Master Yoda
|
|
|
05-05-2007, 05:33 PM
|
#10
|
Dojo: Iwae Dojo
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 568
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Not bad, but I've definitely seen better.
|
Tarik Ghbeish
Jiyūshin-ryū AikiBudō - Iwae Dojo
MASAKATSU AGATSU -- "The true victory of self-mastery."
|
|
|
05-05-2007, 09:13 PM
|
#11
|
Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
Location: Santa Cruz
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,049
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Tarik Ghbeish wrote:
Not bad, but I've definitely seen better.
|
Would you like to share?
|
|
|
|
05-06-2007, 10:44 AM
|
#13
|
Dojo: Houston Ki Aikido
Location: Houston,TX
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,038
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Tarik Ghbeish wrote:
|
nice answer.
but why did so many judoka go play with Ueshiba Sensei then?
or so many Judoka in Hawaii and California go play with Tohei Sensei ?
|
|
|
|
05-06-2007, 11:28 AM
|
#14
|
Dojo: Confluence Aiki-Dojo / Santa Cruz Sword Club
Location: Santa Cruz
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,049
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Craig Hocker wrote:
nice answer.
but why did so many judoka go play with Ueshiba Sensei then?
or so many Judoka in Hawaii and California go play with Tohei Sensei ?
|
Here is a great story. The link takes you to the appropriate place and then you need to select excerpt. It is an excerpt from the book Remembering O'Sensei.
Enjoy
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1570...36#reader-link
|
|
|
|
05-06-2007, 12:29 PM
|
#15
|
Dojo: Renshinkan
Location: Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 206
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Craig Hocker wrote:
but why did so many judoka go play with Ueshiba Sensei then?
|
They heard he was good at breaking Judoka hips and wanted to experience it first-hand?
|
|
|
|
05-06-2007, 12:41 PM
|
#16
|
Dojo: Iwae Dojo
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 568
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Craig Hocker wrote:
nice answer.
but why did so many judoka go play with Ueshiba Sensei then?
or so many Judoka in Hawaii and California go play with Tohei Sensei ?
|
Why do so many aikidoka of the modern day go play with judoka, BJJ, and MMA players?
|
Tarik Ghbeish
Jiyūshin-ryū AikiBudō - Iwae Dojo
MASAKATSU AGATSU -- "The true victory of self-mastery."
|
|
|
05-07-2007, 10:41 AM
|
#17
|
Dojo: Zanshin Kai
Location: Birmingham
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 865
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Tarik Ghbeish wrote:
Why do so many aikidoka of the modern day go play with judoka, BJJ, and MMA players?
|
I think there are three reasons:
1. Judo, BJJ and MMA are all sports. Sports have rules. Aikido violates directly or indirectly most of the rules that most of these sports have and so Aikidoka "loose" against them.
For example, there is no way to beat a Judoka unless you're a better Judoka or you violate Judo rules, so in a Judo dojo you will always loose.
Most people seem get stuck on the fact that they lost and don't give much thought as to why they lost. They don't blame the other guy because he won, they don't blame themselves because that's too hard, they don't blame Judo or whatever because again they're the one that lost, so they come to the conclusion that Aikido is inferior. The common sence thing to do then is study the superior art.
2. Other arts provide a testing ground for what you've learned. You can go up against a fully resisting opponent without having to start a real fight.
3. A lot of Aikido people tend to be the kind of people that habitually do more than one art simply because they enjoy learning other arts.
|
|
|
|
05-07-2007, 11:33 AM
|
#18
|
Dojo: TNBBC (Icho Ryu Aiki Budo), Shinto Ryu IaiBattojutsu
Location: Seattle, WA
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 927
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Wow, that guy does a pretty good job of maintaining 'the cross'. I wonder if he studied with Ark?
|
|
|
|
05-08-2007, 10:22 AM
|
#19
|
Dojo: Iwae Dojo
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 568
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Alex Lawrence wrote:
I think there are three reasons:
|
I think you missed the whole point of the question.
|
Tarik Ghbeish
Jiyūshin-ryū AikiBudō - Iwae Dojo
MASAKATSU AGATSU -- "The true victory of self-mastery."
|
|
|
05-29-2007, 03:42 PM
|
#20
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Great video!
|
|
|
|
05-30-2007, 11:33 PM
|
#21
|
Dojo: Aunkai
Location: California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 181
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Christian Moses wrote:
Wow, that guy does a pretty good job of maintaining 'the cross'. I wonder if he studied with Ark?
|
Chris,
The really interesting thing about the video is the progression from kneeling, to half kneeling to standing.
I used to think that kneeling was all about "samurai self defense" or just ritualized silliness.
Now that I understand a little bit about ''connection" I can see that the kneeling position makes it easier to use connection, because you don't have to pay attention to the knees and ankles. Just the hips on up. Of course half kneeling is a little tougher, and then standing on your feet is tougher still.
If I think about suwariwaza as a training tool to get you using connection (the cross and so on) ASAP then I think it's fantastic. I'm doing a lot of it these days actually. I'm glad I learned the "shape" before, and now it's a matter of putting the right feeling into it.
|
|
|
|
05-30-2007, 11:56 PM
|
#22
|
Dojo: Seattle School of Aikido Shinto Ryu/Seattle Icho Ryu
Location: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 148
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Seiza is great for working on lengthening the spine and starting to use the pelvic crease to generate power...I think.....
Good stuff....Shirata Rinjiro apparently had some seated internal stuff...
Maybe Alan Beebe could comment....
|
Jeremy Hulley
Shinto Ryu Iai Battojutsu
Tuesday Night Bad Budo Club
|
|
|
05-31-2007, 12:08 AM
|
#23
|
Dojo: Aikido of ME
Location: Maine
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 61
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Great stuff...thank you for posting! As I was watching, I was thinking about some of the really spectacular and accomplished practitioners out there, and that O Sensei would likely be so gratified to see where some people have taken this art. I don't imagine that he ever thought he was going to be "the very best who ever lived."
Some of the ukemi in this clip is really awesome. There was one breakfall in there from kotegashi I had to watch a couple of times.
Quote:
Edward Karaa wrote:
IMHO, this is the aikido we should take as a training model, not that of a 70+ years old.
|
I think we should take both!
cheers
Jenny
|
|
|
|
05-31-2007, 02:02 AM
|
#24
|
Dojo: Aunkai, Tokyo
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 591
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Tarik Ghbeish wrote:
|
I'll add another to that then. Dunno if it should be classified as "better" though ^^;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QvWiYcxTm2A
I'm sure there's a fair number of Angier nutriders out there. But its for good reason if you got an eye for good posture etc. Especially considering the guy was in his thirties in this vid...
I talked to a japanese teacher a couple of months ago who saw this clip and said it was kind of disconcerting Angier moved better back then and even more correctly than 90% of the current so called traditional teachers of Jujutsu/Aiki/Kenjutsu what have you out here in modern day Japan.
Ueshiba was just a guy who trained hard and had more than half a brain on his shoulders
Nuff said.
|
|
|
|
05-31-2007, 09:04 AM
|
#25
|
Dojo: Aikido Eastside
Location: Bellevue, WA
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,670
Offline
|
Re: Video of O'Sensei when he was younger.
Quote:
Robert John wrote:
I'll add another to that then. Dunno if it should be classified as "better" though ^^;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QvWiYcxTm2A
I'm sure there's a fair number of Angier nutriders out there. But its for good reason if you got an eye for good posture etc. Especially considering the guy was in his thirties in this vid...
I talked to a japanese teacher a couple of months ago who saw this clip and said it was kind of disconcerting Angier moved better back then and even more correctly than 90% of the current so called traditional teachers of Jujutsu/Aiki/Kenjutsu what have you out here in modern day Japan.
Ueshiba was just a guy who trained hard and had more than half a brain on his shoulders
Nuff said.
|
I've trained with a lot of great folks over the years but none was better than Angier Sensei. I have grabbed him with all my power only to have him drop me on my butt and I never felt anything. He has the most effortless technique I have ever encountered. Truly amazing skills.
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:55 PM.
|
vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2024 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
Copyright 1997-2024 AikiWeb and its Authors, All Rights Reserved.
For questions and comments about this website:
Send E-mail
|
|