Welcome to AikiWeb Aikido Information
AikiWeb: The Source for Aikido Information
AikiWeb's principal purpose is to serve the Internet community as a repository and dissemination point for aikido information.

Sections
home
aikido articles
columns

Discussions
forums
aikiblogs

Databases
dojo search
seminars
image gallery
supplies
links directory

Reviews
book reviews
video reviews
dvd reviews
equip. reviews

News
submit
archive

Miscellaneous
newsletter
rss feeds
polls
about

Follow us on



Home > AikiWeb Aikido Forums
Go Back   AikiWeb Aikido Forums > Techniques

Hello and thank you for visiting AikiWeb, the world's most active online Aikido community! This site is home to over 22,000 aikido practitioners from around the world and covers a wide range of aikido topics including techniques, philosophy, history, humor, beginner issues, the marketplace, and more.

If you wish to join in the discussions or use the other advanced features available, you will need to register first. Registration is absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-26-2008, 02:16 AM   #26
sakumeikan
Dojo: Sakumeikan N.E. Aikkai .Newcastle upon Tyne.
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,266
United Kingdom
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Quote:
Mary Malmros wrote: View Post
Mise en scene: uke and nage are facing the same direction (how they got there is left as an exercise to the student). Both have their inner foot forward. Uke's inner arm is (more or less) extended across nage's inner arm, which is (more or less) extended forward; nage's other arm is on top of uke's arm near the wrist, so nage's two arms act like a lever. Nage extends forward and down, throwing uke, who rolls.

Can anyone tell me what this is called?

TIA,
Hello,
Following on from my earlier blog I realise a spelling error.Ude kime nage not as I have earlier written.Just woke up hence the lousy spelling. Cheers, Joe.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2008, 11:36 AM   #27
charyuop
Dojo: Ponca Aikikai
Location: Ponca City, Oklahoma
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 131
United_States
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Now you are messing me up too LOL.
I knew this one is Juji Nage

While this one is Ude Kime Nage

And this is Sumi Otoshi

(Even tho in our dojo the last 2 are both known as Sumi Otoshi).
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2008, 01:16 PM   #28
mickeygelum
 
mickeygelum's Avatar
Dojo: Warren Budokan, Ohio USA
Location: Youngstown, Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 502
United_States
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Quote:
Gianluigi Pizzuto wrote: View Post
Now you are messing me up too LOL.
I knew this one is Juji Nage

While this one is Ude Kime Nage

And this is Sumi Otoshi

(Even tho in our dojo the last 2 are both known as Sumi Otoshi).
Mr. Pizzuto, you are absolutely correct....the UdeKimeNage is also called Mae otoshi in other systems, and that is the one that was original described by Ms. Malmros
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2008, 08:25 AM   #29
Asiatic Budoka
 
Asiatic Budoka's Avatar
Dojo: Asiatic Martial Arts - Bushinkan Dojo
Location: Chicago
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 19
United_States
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Greetings every one, I'm new here but would like to add my 2 cents to the discussion.

Fumio Toyoda Sensei referred to it as sumi otoshi.

Yamada Sensei refers to it as ude kime nage.

Chiba Sensei, from what I understand, refers to it as juji nage.

Hope that helps.

Shareef Muhammad
"In order to change our condition, we must first change our way of thinking...it is actually thought that changes us."
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2008, 05:49 PM   #30
Don_Modesto
Dojo: Messores Sensei (Largo, Fl.)
Location: Florida
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,267
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

For me, PAG trumps all the terminological angst by pointing out that his Jpn students have no a priori knowledge of what a name means even though they are native speakers of the lingua franca of aikido, i.e., it's largely a matter of convention.

Don J. Modesto
St. Petersburg, Florida
------------------------
http://www.theaikidodojo.com/
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2008, 10:01 PM   #31
rob_liberti
Dojo: Shobu Aikido of Connecticut
Location: East Haven, CT
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,402
United_States
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Sorry almost a zombie thread now...

Doesn't sumi otoshi mean sliding and dropping? Can someone explain why this would apply?

Rob
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2008, 02:47 AM   #32
Flintstone
Dojo: Wherever I happen to be
Location: Zaragoza
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 587
Spain
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Quote:
Rob Liberti wrote: View Post
Doesn't sumi otoshi mean sliding and dropping?
It actually means "corner drop".
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2008, 10:58 AM   #33
dalen7
 
dalen7's Avatar
Dojo: Karcag Aikido Club
Location: Karcag
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 750
Hungary
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Quote:
Shareef Muhammad wrote: View Post
Fumio Toyoda Sensei referred to it as sumi otoshi.

Yamada Sensei refers to it as ude kime nage.

Chiba Sensei, from what I understand, refers to it as juji nage.
In our dojo udekime nage is different than juji nage.
The former is locking the arm and throwing and the latter is more of a neck lock from what i remember from last years seminar.

Udekime nage is required for our 5th kyu test... juji nage for later kyu.

Peace

dAlen
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2008, 11:02 AM   #34
dalen7
 
dalen7's Avatar
Dojo: Karcag Aikido Club
Location: Karcag
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 750
Hungary
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Quote:
Gianluigi Pizzuto wrote: View Post
Now you are messing me up too LOL.
I knew this one is Juji Nage

While this one is Ude Kime Nage

And this is Sumi Otoshi

(Even tho in our dojo the last 2 are both known as Sumi Otoshi).
Yes, that is how we do udekime nage.
Doesnt look like how we do juji nage though...however it has been a year since I did that technique.
and Sumi...I dont remember.

Peace

dAlen
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2008, 12:39 PM   #35
senseimike
 
senseimike's Avatar
Dojo: Rising Star Aikido
Location: South Bend, Nebraska
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 81
United_States
Offline
Re: What the #$#@$% is this technique called?

Sorry to bump and old topic, and also sorry to throw more names into the confusion, but I've always known the original technique to be called Hiji Ate. Just more to swirl around in your head.

Mike Taylor
Godan
Chief Instructor, Rising Star Aikido
South Bend, Nebraska, USA
www.risingstaraikido.com
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kotegaishi weakness? orenb Techniques 60 10-11-2008 02:53 PM
Resisting Aikido Shihan G DiPierro General 260 11-08-2007 10:39 PM
Aikido Vs. Jujitsu (brazilian) aries admin General 89 09-30-2007 04:58 PM
Punishing Uke David Orange Training 46 06-23-2006 07:26 AM
What are you working on? akiy Training 15 06-29-2000 10:52 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:33 AM.



vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2024 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
----------
Copyright 1997-2024 AikiWeb and its Authors, All Rights Reserved.
----------
For questions and comments about this website:
Send E-mail
plainlaid-picaresque outchasing-protistan explicantia-altarage seaford-stellionate